{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 239/1924-04-05/p013","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"It is a question, you see, of finding the threads which lead back into earlier ages. On another occasion my attention fell on a personality who lived about the 9th century in the north east of France as France is to-day, and who during the first part of his life was the owner of extensive landed estates. He was, for those times, a wealthy man, and being of a warlike nature he engaged in many rather quixotic military adventures not on a large but on a small scale. When he had reached a certain age, this personality gathered around him people who then accompanied him on a campaign which ended in disaster and brought bitter disillusionment in its train. Without having achieved anything at all, he was obliged to return home. But meanwhile—as was a common practice in those days—another had taken possession of his house, land and people during his absence. On his arrival he found that his own estates were in other hands strange as the story is, it actually happened so and he was obliged thereafter to serve in his own manor as a kind of helot or serf. Many a meeting took place there with people of the neighbourhood, usually by night, and in a rather uncultured, rough and ready way, ideas were elaborated for seizing power—although beyond the fact that such ideas were worked out, nothing could possibly come of them. These ideas for rebelling against the overlords—almost as in the days of Rome—were the subject of much heated and fervid dialectic. Our interest may well be roused by this personality who had been ousted from estates, possessions and authority but who with an inflexible will stirred up the whole district, particularly against the one who had usurped the property. The personality of whom I am speaking was born again in the 19th century, when inwardly, in mind and soul, he became the kind of character one would expect from the circumstances of the earlier incarnation: he became *Karl Marx*[^3] the socialist leader. Just think what a light is shed upon world history when one can study it in this way, when one can actually follow the souls passing from one epoch into the other, observing how what these souls bear within them is carried over from epoch to epoch. History and the evolution of mankind are seen in this way in their real and concrete setting.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"Lecture IV","site_heading":"Karma Across Incarnations: Garibaldi, Byron, Marx","site_heading_note":"A heading the site wrote for this unit from a summary of it; not in the edition, and not the words of Rudolf Steiner or of the translator. 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So wurde ich bei einer anderen Gelegenheit geführt auf eine Persönlichkeit, die etwa im neunten Jahrhundert im Nordosten Frankreichs, des heutigen Frankreich, gelebt hat und eine Persönlichkeit war, die in der ersten Zeit ihres Lebens einen weiten Besitz an Landgütern hatte, die für die damalige Zeit eine reiche Persönlichkeit war, eine kriegerische Persönlichkeit zugleich, und im kleinen viele abenteuerliche Kriegszüge — nichts gerade Großes durchgemacht hat. Diese Persönlichkeit sammelte, als sie ein bestimmtes Lebensalter erreicht hatte, um sich Leute, welche nun einen Abenteurerzug mit ihr unternahmen, der unglücklich ausging, der eine große, eine riesige Enttäuschung für diese Persönlichkeit brachte, und ohne etwas zu erreichen, mußte diese Persönlichkeit wieder nach Hause zurückkehren. Aber wie es in damaliger Zeit in manchen Gegenden war: Während die Persönlichkeit abwesend war von Haus und Hof und Land und Leuten, hatte ein anderer sich dessen Haus und Hof und Land und Leute bemächtigt. Die Persönlichkeit fand einfach nicht mehr ihr Eigentum vor - es ist sonderbar, aber es ist geschehen und mußte in Zukunft als eine Art Helot, als Leibeigener dienen auf dem eigenen Herrenhofe. Da wurde in der Nacht gewöhnlich so manche Zusammenkunft mit benachbarten Leuten gehalten, und in einer ziemlich wüsten Weise wurden Kraftideen entwickelt, bei denen nichts weiter herauskommen konnte, als daß sie eben entwickelt wurden. Man möchte sagen, ein realdialektisches Spiel wurde mit diesen Kraftideen der Auflehnung gegen die Herren - fast wie im alten Römertum — getrieben. Diese Persönlichkeit kann einem schon interessant werden, die von Besitz und Eigentum und Befehlsgewohnheiten vertrieben wurde, die aber ungebeugt an Willen zum Aufrüttler wurde in der ganzen Gegend, namentlich gegen den, der sich des Eigentums bemächtigt hat. Und wiederum erschien im neunzehnten Jahrhundert diese Persönlichkeit und wurde innerlich, gedanklich, seelisch dasjenige, was werden konnte aus dieser früheren Inkarnation, wurde Karl Marx, der Sozialistenhäuptling. Und nun denken Sie, meine lieben Freunde, wie durchhellt die Weltgeschichte wird, wenn man sie in dieser Weise betrachten kann, wenn man tatsächlich die Seelen verfolgen kann von einer Epoche zur anderen; wie hinübergetragen wird das, was auf den Seelen liegt, von einer Epoche in die andere Epoche. Konkrete Zusammenhänge bekommt dadurch das geschichtliche Leben und Werden und Wesen der Menschheit.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":375,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/239/1924-04-05/p013"}],"english":["GA 239/1924-04-05/p013"],"method":"length","confidence":"high","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":375,"en_words":402,"ratio":1.07,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"proposed","verified":false},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":1.03,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":5642,"original_word_count":5468,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"D. S. 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