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The indications I am giving will show you how well-founded were the practices of those ancient Mysteries where men acted out of wisdom which, although it was an instinctive wisdom, was the outcome of wonderful powers of clairvoyance. In those olden times it would have been unthinkable to study medicine, for example, in the way that is customary nowadays. What happens now is that the purely physical symptoms of disease are observed and efforts are made to discover ameliorative measures by dissecting the corpse and observing the changes in evidence there, as compared with those which take place in the normal, living organism—and so forth. Such procedure would have been regarded as futile in the days of the ancient Mystery-wisdom when it was known that illumination leading to the healing of illness must come from the Beings of the Mercury sphere. For it was known that only if illumination proceeds from the whole nexus of cosmic processes can a man be healed fundamentally. 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And so through the sacred rites enacted in these Mysteries, spiritual Beings were able to come down from the Mercury sphere to the altars in the sanctuaries where the priests of the Mysteries conversed with them. The Beings who thus descended to the altars were known in the Mysteries simply as the *God Mercury*. The influence was the same, although it was not necessarily the same Being who descended on every occasion. 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Er hat in sich diejenigen Krankheitsanlagen und Krankheitsergebnisse, die er hier auf Erden durchlebt hat. Nun wird es Sie überraschen, aber die Sache ist so, daß wir zuerst in dem Leben zwischen dem Tode und der neuen Geburt ablegen die moralischen Schwächen, während die physischen Schwächen später erst abgelegt werden, nämlich in der Merkursphäre. Da wird der Mensch geläutert und gereinigt in seiner Seele von all dem, was er in der Seele miterlebt hat während der Erdenzeit: die verschiedensten Krankheitsprozesse. Der Mensch wird also seelisch völlig gesund gemacht in der Merkursphäre. Denn Sie müssen bedenken, der Mensch ist ja durchaus ein einheitliches Wesen. Man spricht ganz falsch über den Menschen vom okkulten Standpunkt aus, wenn man sagt, der Mensch sei eine Zusammensetzung von Geist, Seele und Leib. Er ist nicht aus diesen drei Bestandteilen etwa zusammengesetzt, sondern wenn man ihn betrachtet, so nimmt er sich nach der einen Seite als Leib, nach der anderen als Geist aus und zwischendrinnen als Seele; aber in Wirklichkeit ist das alles eine Einheit. Wenn der Mensch krank ist, so erlebt die Seele auch das Kranksein; der Geist durchlebt es auch, das Kranksein. Und wenn dann der Mensch im Tode den physischen Leib abgelegt hat, so hat er in der Seele zunächst die Wirkungen auch jener Erlebnisse, die er durch die Krankheitsprozesse durchgemacht hat. Die aber werden in der Merkursphäre völlig abgelegt unter der Einwirkung jener Wesenheiten, die wir als die Archangeloi bezeichnen. Da wird also der Mensch nach und nach durch Monden- und Merkursphäre ein Wesen, das keine moralischen und keine physischen Schwächezustände mehr in sich hat. Er tritt in diesem Zustande nun ein - mittlerweile sind viele Jahrzehnte verflossen — in die Venussphäre. Und in dieser Venussphäre wird das, was jetzt vom Menschen hindurchgedrungen ist durch Monden- und Merkursphäre, so bearbeitet, daß der Mensch übergehen kann, nachdem er die Venussphäre durchgemacht hat, in die Sonnensphäre. Und wir durchleben in der Tat einen größeren Teil unseres Lebens zwischen dem Tode und einer neuen Geburt in dieser Sonnensphäre.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":377,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/239/1924-06-08/p006"},{"locus":"GA 239/1924-06-08/p007","passage_number":7,"text":"Gerade aus den Angaben, die ich Ihnen mache, werden Sie ersehen, wie begründet durchaus eigentlich alles ist, was Einrichtung war jener alten Mysterien, die aus einer instinktiven, aber großartigen, gewaltigen Hellseherweisheit in alten Zeiten hervorgegangen sind. In diesen alten Zeiten hatte man zum Beispiel niemals Medizin so studiert wie heute, indem man einfach in der physischen Welt bleibt und den physischen Menschen in seinen Krankheitssymptomen studiert, probiert, was ihm da helfen kann, indem man die Leiche seziert, die Veränderungen an der Leiche gegenüber dem normalen Organismus studiert und so weiter. Das würde man in den Zeiten der alten Mysterienweisheit als etwas außerordentlich Kindisches betrachtet haben, denn da wußte man ganz genau, wie der Mensch geheilt wird. Das kann man nur erfahren, wenn einem die Wesenheiten der Merkursphäre die Aufklärung darüber geben, denn die wird im Zusammenhang aller kosmischen Prozesse gegeben. Da wird der Mensch gründlich geheilt. Wenn man daher in das hineinsieht, was ich ja von einem anderen Gesichtspunkte in meiner «Geheimwissenschaft» als die Orakel der Merkur-Mysterien beschrieben habe, so gewahrt man da, wie es eigentlich in diesen Mysterien, die im wesentlichen im Dienste der alten Heilkunde gestanden haben, zugegangen ist.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":191,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/239/1924-06-08/p007"},{"locus":"GA 239/1924-06-08/p008","passage_number":8,"text":"Sehen Sie, wir haben gestern sprechen müssen von den großen Urlehrern. Das waren einmal Mitbewohner der Menschen auf Erden. Sie waren überall, wo Menschen waren, denn sie bevölkerten mit den Menschen als eine Art zweites, ätherisch vorhandenes Menschengeschlecht die Erde. Aber in jenen alten Zeiten stiegen für das Bewußtsein der Menschen, das allerdings nur ein dumpfes, traumhaftes war, auch andere Wesenheiten zu den Menschen herunter, Wesenheiten, die nun durchaus nicht die Erde bewohnen. Natürlich ist das, was man über solche Dinge zu sagen hat, für den Menschen, der so ganz ergeben ist der heutigen materialistischen Wissenschaft, nicht nur ein Paradoxon, sondern ein völliger Unsinn. Aber dieser «Unsinn» ist eben die Wahrheit. Diese alten Mysterienweisen haben gewußt: Aufschluß über die Gesundungsprozesse können nur die übersinnlichen Wesenheiten des Merkur geben. Daher wurden diese Merkur-Mysterien so eingerichtet, daß durch einen entsprechenden Kultus in der Tat Bewohner des Merkur herabsteigen konnten auf den Altar der Merkur-Kultstätte, und daß die Priester der Merkur-Mysterien sich besprechen konnten mit den geistigen Wesenheiten, die so herunterstiegen durch die Verrichtungen der Kultushandlungen. Und das, was in diesen alten Zeiten Heilkunde war, das wurde durchaus in den Merkur-Mysterien in diesem Sinne entgegengenommen. Man nannte die einzelnen Wesenheiten - die nicht einmal immer dieselben zu sein brauchten, aber man empfand sie als dieselben -, die herunterstiegen auf die Altäre, eben den Gott Merkur. Man nahm die alte MysterienMedizin entgegen in der Art, daß man sagte: Das hat der Gott Merkur seinen Arzt-Priestern mitgeteilt. Damit heilte man.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":245,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/239/1924-06-08/p008"},{"locus":"GA 239/1924-06-08/p009","passage_number":9,"text":"Auch heute beruht die Geisteswissenschaft darauf, daß durch die entsprechende Vorbereitung der Initiierten die Wesenheiten unseres Kosmos auf die Erde heruntersteigen. Diejenigen, die Eingeweihte sind in die heutige Mysterienweisheit, wissen ganz gut, daß auch da das Wesentliche darauf beruht, daß man ins Zwiegespräch kommt mit den Wesenheiten des Kosmos. Aber im allgemeinen Menschenbewußtsein von heute ist das Gegenteil vorhanden von dem, was in der alten Zeit durchaus da war. Heute sagt man: Der ist ein Arzt, der an der Universität zum Arzt promoviert worden ist.- Das sagte man in alten Zeiten nicht. In alten Zeiten war der ein Arzt, der mit dem Gotte Merkur gesprochen hat. In den darauffolgenden Zeiten ist schon alles in der Auflösung; da waren nur noch die Traditionen desjenigen vorhanden, was einst in den Mysterien aus den Zwiegesprächen zwischen den Arzt-Priestern mit dem Gotte Merkur hervorgegangen ist.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":141,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/239/1924-06-08/p009"}],"beads":[{"from":[5,6],"to":[6,7],"confidence":"medium","pairing_state":"verified"},{"from":[7],"to":[8],"confidence":"medium","pairing_state":"verified"},{"from":[8],"to":[9],"confidence":"medium","pairing_state":"proposed"}],"note":"Paired by the paragraph aligner; each language numbers its own paragraphs. A bead at either end of the span can carry text beyond it (the `from` numbers show what each bead covers)."}}