{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 239/1924-06-10/p014","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"There is an individuality who in very early times had attained a certain degree of Initiation in the Hibernian Mysteries and then, later on, passed through a female incarnation—but the influence of the Hibernian incarnation worked deeply, very deeply upon the soul. Then, in a life between death and a new birth, this individuality lived through experiences arising when karma is wrought out in the Saturn sphere. The whole significance of what the soul had acquired in an Hibernian Initiation—not at the highest but at a certain stage—was seen in retrospect, in a perspective widening out into a vista of great cosmic happenings. The import of the knowledge which it was possible to acquire in Hibernia was seen in its relation to the whole past evolution of man. In a majestic vision of cosmic evolution it was revealed how human longings and strivings through thousands of years had brought this Hibernia into being. But the modern age held in store for this individuality a body and a kind of education by which the most significant elements were obscured—yet for all that came to a certain expression in keeping with the civilisation of the nineteenth century. In this case too, what had been retained of the great cosmic retrospect was transformed when the soul came down into a physical body and underwent a kind of education neither of which in truth were suited to experiences lived through in an Hibernian Initiation and wrought out in the Saturn sphere. When the soul descended, this was all transformed into ideals reaching out to the future. But because the body was that of a Frenchman of the nineteenth century and therefore altogether different from the remarkable bodies of the old Irish Initiates, a very great deal receded into the background, transforming itself into sublime but fantastic pictures which, however have a certain power, a certain grandeur about them. This individuality reincarnated as *Victor Hugo*.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"Lecture IV","site_heading":"Saturn Sphere's Role in Shaping Human Karma","site_heading_note":"A heading the site wrote for this unit from a summary of it; not in the edition, and not the words of Rudolf Steiner or of the translator. 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Die ganze Bedeutung desjenigen, was man in Hybernia lernen konnte, wurde gesehen in seiner Stellung gegenüber dem ganzen vergangenen Wirken der Menschenwesenheit. Wie sich dieses Hybernia aus menschlichen Sehnsuchten von Jahrhunderten, von Jahrtausenden allmählich entwickelt hat, wurde da erarbeitet in einer großartigen kosmischen Rückschau. Aber es stand gerade dieser Individualität bevor, als die neuere Zeit heranrückte, eben einen solchen Menschenleib zu haben und eine solche Menschenerziehung, in der sich das Wichtigste davon verbirgt, und doch wiederum in Gemäßheit eben der Zivilisation des neunzehnten Jahrhunderts auslebte. Und wiederum war es so, daß sich dasjenige, was in der Rückschau sich nun die Seele hereingebracht hat beim Heruntersteigen in einen wahrhaftig nicht sehr geeigneten physischen Leib, zu einer für dasjenige, was in irischer Initiation durchgemacht und vom Saturn bearbeitet worden war, gar nicht geeigneten Erziehung, verwandelte in Ideale, die in die Zukunft hereinwirkten. Aber weil es untertauchen mußte in einen Körper, der nicht so war wie die ganz merkwürdigen Körper der alten irischen Eingeweihten, sondern eben wie der Körper eines Franzosen des neunzehnten Jahrhunderts, so trat da vieles zurück, verwandelte sich jedoch in schwungvolle, aber phantastische Bilder, die doch wieder etwas Eindringliches, Großartiges haben. 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