{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 240/1924-06-01/p026","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"As I said, Schiller developed his karma above all in the sphere of Saturn. To behold this Saturn existence in the way I have indicated, causes great amazement, because it is so different from anything one can experience on the Earth. In the consciousness of the Beings on Saturn there is only Past; there is no Present at all. But the Past is revealed in great majesty. Let me try to make a comparison with something that might happen on the Earth—it does *not* happen, but hypothetically it is possible. Imagine that you have no idea what you look like, you know only that you exist. You act, you do something—you do not see this at the time, you see it only when it has become the Past. You walk: you do not see your own steps or the movements you make; but immediately afterwards these movements change into a snowman—and you draw the whole movement after you when you look round and see what you have been doing! Such is the life of these strange Spirits upon Saturn. They are never aware of what they do out of an immediate resolve of the Present, but they perceive it only when it has become the Past. This is a difficult conception for the ordinary consciousness, but it is so nevertheless. Individualities like that of Schiller, who are also forming their karma, live in similar conditions of existence. Such individuals develop a wonderful vision of the Past. And so the soul of Schiller, before he was born in the year 1790, lived in the spiritual world with a majestic vision in retrospect of all the Past that was connected with his own karma. And then, on the Earth, this changed into the reaction: the vision of the Past is now transformed into enthusiasm for ideals of the Future. Schiller's ideals of the Future arose from his activity in connection with his karma during his Saturn existence.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"Lecture VI","site_heading":"Cosmic Karma: Planetary Spheres and Human Destiny","site_heading_note":"A heading the site wrote for this unit from a summary of it; not in the edition, and not the words of Rudolf Steiner or of the translator. Cite the unit by its title and locus, never by this heading, and do not quote it.","date":"1924-06-01","location":null,"word_count":325,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/240/1924-06-01/p026","alignment_confidence":"high","alignment_reason":"beads:length","two_voice_volume":false,"translation_credit":{"scope":"unit","status":"established","translator":"D. S. 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Dieses Saturndasein zu schauen, auf diese Weise, wie ich es hier angedeutet habe, das gibt nun allerdings einen, ich möchte sagen, im höchsten Grade bestürzenden Eindruck, weil es so verschieden ist von dem, was man auf der Erde erleben kann. Auf dem Saturn ist in dem Bewußtsein der dortigen Wesenheiten nur Vergangenheit, gar nicht Gegenwart. Aber die Vergangenheit ist in einer großartigen Weise da. Sehen Sie, wenn ich es vergleichen soll mit etwas, was auf der Erde geschehen könnte — es geschieht natürlich nicht, aber hypothetisch geschehen könnte -, so müßte ich sagen: Denken Sie sich einmal, Sie haben keine Ahnung, wie Sie ausschauen, Sie wissen nur, daß Sie sind. Sie handeln, Sie tun: Sie sehen das auch nicht, erst wenn es vergangen ist. Denken Sie sich, Sie gehen: Sie sehen Ihre eigenen Schritte nicht, die Bewegungen nicht; aber gleich hinterher verwandeln sich diese Bewegungen in ein Schneemännchen, und Sie ziehen die ganze Bewegung nach, wenn Sie sich umblicken, und schauen, was Sie getan haben. So ist das Leben dieser besonderen Geister auf dem Saturn. Sie nehmen nie dasjenige wahr, was sie aus dem unmittelbaren Entschluß der Gegenwart tun, sondern sie sehen es erst, wenn es vergangen ist. Es ist für das gewöhnliche Bewußtsein schwer vorzustellen, aber es ist so. In einem solchen Dasein sind auch die Individualitäten, die mit einer solchen Individualität wie der Schillerschen das Karma formen. Solche Individualitäten nehmen dann auf ein wunderbares Hineinschauen in Vergangenheiten. So daß die Schillersche Seele, bevor sie 1759 geboren worden ist, in der Tat in der geistigen Welt mit einem grandiosen Rückblick auf alles Vergangene war, das mit dem eigenen Karma zusammenhängt. Beim Hereingehen auf die Erde verwandelt sich das in die Reaktion: das Schauen des Vergangenen verwandelt sich in das Fassen, in das enthusiastische Fassen von Zukunftsidealen. Und so entstanden die Schillerschen Zukunftsideale aus seiner karmischen Arbeit im Saturndasein.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":323,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/240/1924-06-01/p025"}],"english":["GA 240/1924-06-01/p026"],"method":"length","confidence":"high","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":323,"en_words":325,"ratio":1.01,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"proposed","verified":false},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":1.01,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":6516,"original_word_count":6430,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"D. S. 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