{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 246/1908-01-12/p016","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"Imagine if a clairvoyant had looked down and followed this development. He would not have looked at each individual Cherusker, but he would have focused his attention on the Folk-souls. He would see how the soul arises and develops, but then he would see something else. When we follow a person up into Devachan since his last death, we continue to follow his life in those higher worlds until he steps down again into earthly life and so on. We do not see such a Folk-souls disappear and reappear on its plan, but as it once transformed itself from another soul, so it forms itself anew on its own plan. The Cheruscan soul had transformed itself from another Folk-souls and is now forming itself into another. A Folk-souls consists of sensations, impulses, desires, like a human being of nerves, muscles and so on, and is always being created anew from itself, is always creating itself anew from the eternal fire, and such a Folk-soul does not leave its world. Such beings exist today; they never appear on earth. And because they have appeared to some people in the form of a bird, such beings have been called “bird phoenixes”. It is a fact and is simply modeled on the astral experience, event. Thus we have cited an important symbol.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"10. Occult Signs and Symbols of the Astral World","site_heading":null,"date":"1908-01-12","location":null,"word_count":219,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/246/1908-01-12/p016","alignment_confidence":"high","alignment_reason":"beads:identity","two_voice_volume":false,"translation_credit":{"scope":"unit","status":"established","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"SOL2025","book_title":"Supplements to Member Lectures","publisher":"Steiner Online Library","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA246/English/SOL2025/19080112s01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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Wenn wir einen Menschen verfolgen hinauf ins Devachan seit seinem letzten Tode, so verfolgen wir sein Leben weiter in jenen höheren Welten, bis er wieder hinunter in das Erdenleben tritt und so fort. Eine solche Volksseele sehen wir nicht verschwinden und auf ihrem Plan auftauchen, sondern wie sie sich einst aus einer anderen Seele verwandelte, so gestaltet sie sich auf ihrem eigenen Plan von Neuem heran. Die Cheruskerseele hatte sich aus einer anderen Volksseele umgestaltet und gestaltet sich nun wieder in eine andere hinein. Eine Volksseele besteht aus Empfindungen, Trieben, Begierden, wie der Mensch aus Nerven, Muskeln und so weiter und entsteht aus sich selbst immer wieder aufs Neue, erzeugt sich immer wieder aus dem ewigen Feuer, und ein solches Volks-Ich geht nicht aus seiner Welt heraus. Solche Wesen gibt es heute; sie erscheinen nie auf der Erde. Und weil sie manchen Menschen in Gestalt eines Vogels erschienen sind, nannte man solche Wesen «Vogel Phönix». Es ist eine Tatsache und ist einfach nachgebildet aus dem astralischen Erlebnis, Ereignis. 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