{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 246/1908-08-17/p003","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"After a long series of purely theosophical lectures, we want to speak today from a different tone, so to speak, [speaking from a completely different point of view, namely more philosophical]. I would therefore ask you to take into consideration from the outset that today's lecture is not theosophical in the true sense of the word, and that the purely philosophical tone that must be struck may appear somewhat abstract and difficult to some who are not used to moving in such directions of thought. This happens for a very specific reason; it happens because again and again, and especially in those circles that have or believe to have a certain philosophical education, the opinion must arise (I expressly choose the word “must”) that Theosophy is actually only to be approved of by people who have not progressed beyond a certain dilettantism in philosophical or scientific matters. However, one could easily think in these circles that those who have a thorough philosophical education, who have learned what the foundations of scientific certainty and conviction are, cannot really concern themselves with all the fantasy, with all that which confronts them as supposedly higher experience; this is something for those who are not yet ripe for scientific thinking. In order to recognize what such a judgment is actually about, let us take a look at the philosophical activity itself, so to speak. Of course, this can only be done very briefly today, only in hints [and sketchily, because strictly and thoroughly proven]; but if we ever have the opportunity to speak in more detail about such things, then you will see that these hints are taken out of a large [and true] context [which is easily apparent on closer examination].","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"12. Philosophy and Theosophy","site_heading":null,"date":"1908-08-17","location":null,"word_count":288,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/246/1908-08-17/p003","alignment_confidence":"high","alignment_reason":"beads:identity","two_voice_volume":false,"translation_credit":{"scope":"unit","status":"established","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"SOL2025","book_title":"Supplements to Member Lectures","publisher":"Steiner Online Library","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA246/English/SOL2025/19080817s01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. The translator IS verified for this lecture: its own source names the translator (evidence: the lecture's page, rsarchive's lecture list, or the cover of the book it was published in), and that page's text was matched against this unit (see match_score and source_url). Cite the translator with confidence; attribute the publisher only as probable."},"edition_coverage":{"de":["original"],"en":["English"]},"available_versions":[{"lang":"de","edition":"original","edition_basis":null,"is_original":true,"is_default_edition":true,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/246/1908-08-17/p003"},{"lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/246/1908-08-17/p003","paragraph_aligned":true}],"record":{"record_type":"listeners_notes","scope":"volume","note":"Written from listeners' notes, summaries, or memory rather than a shorthand transcript. The wording is the note-taker's as much as Steiner's: weigh a single striking phrase here far more cautiously than the same phrase in a stenographic volume, and do not rest an argument on one word.","evidence":"Nach zum Teil bruchstückhaften Mitschriften","evidence_translation":"From transcripts that are in part fragmentary","evidence_source":"The publisher's description of the volume, as mirrored on AnthroWiki (GA 246), which also speaks of \"fragmentarischen Hörernotizen und Vortragszusammenfassungen\". The translation is the maintainer's, not a published one."},"paired_german":{"status":"paired","german":[{"locus":"GA 246/1908-08-17/p003","passage_number":3,"text":"Nachdem wir eine lange Reihe von rein theosophischen Vorträgen hinter uns haben, wollen wir heute einmal sozusagen aus einem anderen Ton heraus sprechen, [einmal von einem ganz anderen Gesichtspunkte aus reden, nämlich mehr vom philosophischen]. Daher bitte ich Sie, von vornherein darauf Rücksicht nehmen zu wollen, dass der heutige Vortrag nicht im eigentlichen Sinne theosophisch ist, und dass der rein philosophische Ton, der angeschlagen werden muss, für manchen, der nicht gewöhnt ist, sich in solchen Denkrichtungen zu bewegen, etwas abstrakt und schwierig erscheinen kann. Es geschieht das aus einem ganz bestimmten Grunde; es geschieht, weil immer wieder und wieder, und gerade in denjenigen Kreisen, die eine gewisse philosophische Bildung haben oder zu haben glauben, die Meinung auftauchen muss (ich wähle ausdrücklich das Wort «muss»), Theosophie sei eigentlich nur zu billigen von Menschen, welche es in philosophischen oder wissenschaftlichen Dingen über einen gewissen Dilettantismus nicht hinausgebracht haben. Derjenige aber, so könnte man leicht in diesen Kreisen denken, der eine gründliche philosophische Bildung hat, der kennengelernt hat, welches die Grundlagen einer wissenschaftlichen Sicherheit und Überzeugung sind, der könne sich mit all der Phantasterei, mit all dem, was einem da als angeblich höhere Erfahrung entgegentritt, eigentlich gar nicht befassen; das sei etwas für solche, die noch nicht reif für wissenschaftliches Denken sind. Um nun zu erkennen, was cs eigentlich mit einem solchen Urteil auf sich hat, wollen wir uns sozusagen die philosophische Betätigung selbst einmal anschauen. Natürlich kann das heute nur ganz kurz geschehen, nur in Andeutungen [und skizzenhaft, denn streng und ausführlich bewiesen]; aber wenn wir einmal Gelegenheit haben werden, ausführlicher über solche Dinge zu sprechen, dann werden Sie sehen, dass diese Andeutungen aus einem großen [und wahrhaftigen] Zusammenhange herausgenommen sind [, was bei genauerer Prüfung leicht ersichtlich ist].","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":287,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/246/1908-08-17/p003"}],"english":["GA 246/1908-08-17/p003"],"method":"identity","confidence":"high","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":287,"en_words":288,"ratio":1.0,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"verified","verified":true,"evidence":["length","meaning","audit"]},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":1.02,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":7990,"original_word_count":7843,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"SOL2025","book_title":"Supplements to Member Lectures","publisher":"Steiner Online Library","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA246/English/SOL2025/19080817s01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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