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This dichotomy gave rise to the scholastics' task: to prove that Aristotle's logic could be applied, that his philosophy could be practiced, and that it was precisely through him that one had the instrument to truly comprehend and understand Christianity. It was a task set by the development of the times. Aristotelianism had to be treated in such a way that it became clear: What had been brought by the Arabs as the teachings of Aristotle was then only a misunderstanding of the same if it proved hostile to Christianity. That one only had to interpret it correctly in order to have the foundation for understanding Christianity: That was the task which scholasticism set itself and to which the whole of Aquinas' writings were devoted. [It was therefore necessary to demonstrate that Christian doctrines could be supported precisely on the basis of a correctly understood Aristotle. 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Da musste man sich in der Scholastik doch fragen, ob denn tatsächlich jenes der wahre Aristoteles sei, der von den Arabern nach Europa importiert wurde.] Man musste sich sagen: Wenn das, was die Araber als Interpretation des Aristoteles herübergebracht haben, wahr ist, dann wäre der Aristotelismus eine wissenschaftliche Grundlage, die dazu geeignet wäre, das Christentum zu widerlegen. Nun stellen wir uns vor, was mussten demgegenüber die Scholastiker empfinden? Auf der einen Seite hielten sie fest an der Wahrheit des Christentums, auf der anderen aber konnten sie nach aller Tradition nicht anders, als eingestehen, dass die Logik, die Denktechnik des Aristoteles, die wahre, die richtige sei. Aus diesem Zwiespalt heraus ergab sich für die Scholastiker die Aufgabe: zu beweisen, dass man die Logik des Aristoteles anwenden könne, seine Philosophie treiben könne, und dass man gerade durch ihn das Instrument habe, das Christentum wirklich zu begreifen und zu verstehen. Es war eine Aufgabe, die durch die Zeitentwicklung gestellt war. Es musste der Aristotelismus so behandelt werden, dass ersichtlich wurde: Was als Lehre des Aristoteles von den Arabern gebracht worden war, ist dann nur eine missverständliche Auffassung desselben, wenn es dem Christentum feindlich sich erweist. Dass man es nur richtig deuten müsse, um in ihm das Fundament für das Begreifen des Christentums zu haben: Das war die Aufgabe, die sich die Scholastik stellte und der das gesamte Schrifttum des Aquinaten gewidmet war. [Daher war es nötig darzulegen, dass man gerade aus dem richtig verstandenen Aristoteles heraus die christlichen Lehren stützen könne. 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