{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 246/1908-08-17/p025","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"For today, we are much more interested in something else, namely the web in which philosophical thought of the nineteenth century has become entangled. Let us examine how this came about. Above all, Kant felt the need to show to what extent there was something absolute in thinking, something in which there could be no uncertainty. But everything that comes from experience, he said, is not certain. Certainty can only be given to our judgment by the fact that part of our knowledge does not come from things, but from ourselves. Now, in Kant's sense, we look at things in our cognition as if through a colored glass; in our cognition we catch things in the lawful connections that derive from our own being. Our cognition has certain forms - the spatial form, the temporal form, the category of cause and effect - which have no meaning for the thing in itself, at least man can know nothing of whether the thing in itself exists in space, time or causality. These are forms that arise only from the subject of man, and which man spins about the “thing-in-itself” at the moment in which the latter approaches him, so that the thing-in-itself remains unknown to him. Thus, where man confronts this thing-in-itself, he weaves the form of space and time around it, grasps it in cause and effect; and so man lays his whole web of concepts and forms over the thing-in-itself. That is why there is a certain certainty of knowledge for man, because - as long as he is what he is - time, space and causality apply to him: What man himself sees into things, he must unravel out of them again. But man cannot know what the thing itself is, because he remains eternally caught up in the mental image. Schopenhauer expressed this classically in the sentence: “The world is my mental image”.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"12. Philosophy and Theosophy","site_heading":null,"date":"1908-08-17","location":null,"word_count":316,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/246/1908-08-17/p025","alignment_confidence":"high","alignment_reason":"beads:identity","two_voice_volume":false,"translation_credit":{"scope":"unit","status":"established","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"SOL2025","book_title":"Supplements to Member Lectures","publisher":"Steiner Online Library","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA246/English/SOL2025/19080817s01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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Kant hatte vor allen Dingen das Bedürfnis, zu zeigen, inwiefern in dem Denken etwas Absolutes vorliege, etwas, in dem es keine Unsicherheit geben könne. Alles aber, was aus der Erfahrung stammt, sagte er, das ist kein Sicheres. Die Sicherheit kann unserm Urteil nur dadurch gegeben werden, dass ein Teil der Erkenntnis nicht von den Dingen, sondern von uns selbst stammt. Wir sehen nun im Kant’sehen Sinne in unserer Erkenntnis die Dinge wie durch ein gefärbtes Glas an; wir fangen in unserer Erkenntnis die Dinge in die gesetzmäßigen Zusammenhänge ein, die von unserer eigenen Wesenheit herrühren. Unsere Erkenntnis hat gewisse Formen - die Raumform, die Zeitform, die Kategorie von Ursache und Wirkung -, die haben für das Ding an sich keine Bedeutung, wenigstens kann der Mensch nichts davon wissen, ob das Ding an sich in Raum, Zeit oder Kausalität existiert. Das sind Formen, die nur aus dem Subjekt des Menschen entspringen, und die der Mensch in dem Augenblicke über das «Ding an sich» spinnt, in dem dies letztere an ihn herantritt, sodass ihm das Ding an sich unbekannt bleibt. Wo also der Mensch diesem Ding an sich gegenübertritt, da umspinnt er es mit der Form des Raumes, der Zeit, fasst es in Ursache und Wirkung; und so legt der Mensch sein ganzes Netz von Begriffen und Formen über das Ding an sich hinüber. Deshalb gibt es ja für den Menschen eine gewisse Sicherheit der Erkenntnis, weil - so lange er ist, wie er ist - Zeit, Raum und Kausalität für ihn gelten: Was der Mensch selbst in die Dinge hineinschaut, das muss er wieder aus ihnen herausdröseln. Aber was das Ding an sich ist, kann der Mensch nicht wissen, denn er bleibt ewig in der Vorstellung befangen. Das hat Schopenhauer zum klassischen Ausdruck gebracht in dem Satze: «Die Welt ist meine Vorstellung».","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":331,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/246/1908-08-17/p025"}],"english":["GA 246/1908-08-17/p025"],"method":"identity","confidence":"high","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":331,"en_words":316,"ratio":0.95,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"proposed","verified":false},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":1.02,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":7990,"original_word_count":7843,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"SOL2025","book_title":"Supplements to Member Lectures","publisher":"Steiner Online Library","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA246/English/SOL2025/19080817s01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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