{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 246/1908-08-17/p037","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"There we have as universalia ante rem that which we must assume to exist first in the Godhead, in the wisdom of God. As a Christian theologian, as a scholastic, we understand it in a similar way, except that we do not go right up to the highest divine. As theosophists, we know that the universalia in re, for example when it comes to animals, mean their group soul, and so we do indeed have in Aristotelianism a foundation for what can really support theosophy conceptually. But there is something else to all that we encounter in Aristotle that has become increasingly unpopular in modern times: it is necessary to be comfortable thinking in sharp, finely chiseled concepts, in concepts that one first prepares for oneself; it is necessary to have the patience to proceed from concept to concept; it is necessary, above all, to have a tendency towards conceptual purity and cleanliness, to know what one is talking about when one uses a concept. If, for example, one speaks in the scholastic sense of the relationship of the concept to what it represents, one must first work through long definitions in the scholastic writings. You have to know what it means when you say that the concept is formally grounded in the subject and fundamentally grounded in the object: what the concept has as its actual form comes from the subject, what it has as its content comes from the object - that is just a small sample. Really only a small one. If you go through scholastic works, you have to wade through thick volumes of definitions, and that is very unpleasant for today's scientist; he therefore regards the scholastics as school foxes and dismisses them as such. He does not even know that true scholasticism is nothing other than the thorough elaboration of the art of thought, so that it can form a foundation for the real comprehension of reality.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"12. 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Als Theosophen wissen wir, dass die universalia in re, wenn es sich zum Beispiel um Tiere handelt, deren Gruppenseele bedeuten, und so haben wir in der Tat im Aristotelismus eine Fundamentierung dessen, was wirklich die Theosophie begrifflich stützen kann. Nur gehört zu all dem, was uns bei Aristoteles entgegentritt, noch etwas anderes, was in der Neuzeit immer unbeliebter geworden ist: Es ist nötig, dass man sich dazu bequemß, in scharfen, fein ziselierten Begriffen zu denken, in Begriffen, die man sich erst zubereitet, es gehört dazu, dass man die Geduld hat, von Begriff zu Begriff vorzuschreiten, dass man vor allen Dingen Neigung zu begrifflicher Reinheit und Sauberkeit habe, dass man weiß, wovon man redet, wenn man einen Begriff anschlägt. Wenn man im scholastischen Sinne zum Beispiel von der Beziehung des Begriffs zu dem, was er repräsentiert, spricht, so muss man erst lange Definitionen in den scholastischen Schriften durcharbeiten. Man muss wissen, was es heißt, wenn man sagt, der Begriff ist formaliter begründet im Subjekt und fundamentaliter im Objekt: Was der Begriff als eigentliche Gestalt hat, kommt vom Subjekt, was er als Inhalt hat vom Objekt her - das ist nur eine kleine Probe. Wirklich nur eine kleine. Wenn Sie scholastische Werke durchnehmen, müssen Sie sich durch dicke Bände von Definitionen durchwinden, und das ist dem heutigen Wissenschafter sehr unangenchm; daher betrachtet er die Scholastiker als Schulfüchse und tut sie damit ab. Er weiß gar nicht, dass wahre Scholastik nichts anderes ist als die gründliche Ausarbeitung der Gedankenkunst, sodass diese ein Fundament für das wirkliche Begreifen der Wirklichkeit bilden kann.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":302,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/246/1908-08-17/p037"}],"english":["GA 246/1908-08-17/p037"],"method":"identity","confidence":"high","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":302,"en_words":323,"ratio":1.07,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"proposed","verified":false},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":1.02,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":7990,"original_word_count":7843,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"SOL2025","book_title":"Supplements to Member Lectures","publisher":"Steiner Online Library","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA246/English/SOL2025/19080817s01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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