{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 246/1908-08-17/p047","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"Now the next question is: do we arrive at any reality at all from such subjective thinking, at something permanent? And now it is a matter of the fact that, as we have characterized, the subjective is initially, precisely constructed in thinking, formal, that it initially looks like something added to the objective. Certainly, we can say: basically, a circle or a sphere in the world is completely indifferent to whether I think it or not. My thought, which is added to reality, is completely indifferent to the world of experience around us. This exists in itself, independently of our thinking. It is therefore possible that although our thinking is an objectivity for us, it is none of our business. How do we get beyond this apparent contradiction? Where is the other pole that we must now grasp? Where is there a way within pure thinking to create not only form, but also reality with form? As soon as we have something that generates reality at the same time as form, then we can connect to a fixed point in terms of epistemology. We are everywhere, for example when we construct a circle, in the special case that we say: What I say about this circle is objectively correct - whether it is applicable to things depends on the fact that when I encounter things, they show me whether they carry the laws that I have constructed. If the sum of all entelechies dissolves in pure thinking, then a remainder must remain, which Aristotle calls matter, if it is not possible to arrive at a reality from pure thinking itself.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"12. 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Und nun handelt es sich darum, dass ja, wie wir charakterisiert haben, das Subjektive zunächst, gerade im Denken konstruiert, formal ist, dass es zunächst für das Objektive wie etwas Hinzugebrachtes aussieht. Gewiss, wir können sagen: Im Grunde genommen ist es einem in der Welt befindlichen Kreis oder einer Kugel ganz gleichgültig, ob ich sie denke oder nicht. Mein Gedanke, der zur Wirklichkeit hinzukommt, ist für die um uns liegende Erfahrungswelt ganz gleichgültig. Diese besteht in sich, unabhängig von unserem Denken. Es kann also sein, dass unser Denken zwar für uns eine Objektivität ist, dass es aber die Dinge nichts angehe. Wie kommen wir über diesen scheinbaren Widerspruch hinaus? Wo ist der andere Pol, den wir jetzt ergreifen müssen? Wo gibt es innerhalb des reinen Denkens einen Weg, nicht nur die Form zu erzeugen, sondern mit der Form zugleich die Realität? Sobald wir irgendetwas haben, was mit der Form zugleich die Realität erzeugt, dann können wir an einen festen Punkt erkenntnistheoretisch anknüpfen. Wir sind ja überall, zum Beispiel wenn wir einen Kreis konstruieren, in dem besonderen Fall, dass wir sagen: Was ich von diesem Kreis sage, ist objektiv richtig - ob es anwendbar ist auf die Dinge, das hängt davon ab, dass, wenn ich den Dingen begegne, sie mir zeigen, ob sie die Gesetze in sich tragen, die ich konstruiert habe. Wenn die Summe aller Entelechien sich auflöst im reinen Denken, so muss ein Rest bleiben, den Aristoteles Materie nennt, wenn es nicht möglich ist, aus dem reinen Denken selbst zu einer Realität zu kommen.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":273,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/246/1908-08-17/p047"}],"english":["GA 246/1908-08-17/p047"],"method":"identity","confidence":"high","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":273,"en_words":270,"ratio":0.99,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"proposed","verified":false},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":1.02,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":7990,"original_word_count":7843,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"SOL2025","book_title":"Supplements to Member Lectures","publisher":"Steiner Online Library","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA246/English/SOL2025/19080817s01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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