{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 246/1908-12-28/p014","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"14-15. Of the initiates of ancient Atlantis. At that time there were initiates for the various planetary spirits. There were: Mercury, Mars, Jupiter, Venus, Vulcan initiates, Sun initiates, Moon initiates. Each of these had its own special cult and its own special form of initiation. However, the entire Atlantean continent perished as a result of the abuse they made of the secrets handed down to them by the initiates. Thanks to their organization, the Atlanteans still had it in their power to extract the life forces, the seed forces, from plants and animals. They then used these to propel their vehicles, which enabled them to fly at low altitudes above the earth. Today, we only have the power to extract the lifeless from the minerals, but not the ability to extract the seed forces. By extracting the seed forces from animals and plants, they have brought them into a relationship with air and water. They filled the air and water with the spirits thus released, which subsequently rebelled against them in the wind and water and brought about their downfall.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"15. On the use of the Etheric and Astral Bodies of Important Personalities. 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Durch den Missbrauch aber, den sie mit den Geheimnissen trieben, welche ihnen durch die Eingeweihten überliefert wurden, ging der ganze atlantische Kontinent zugrunde. Die Atlantier hatten vermöge ihrer Organisation es noch in ihrer Macht, die Lebenskräfte, die Samenkräfte aus Pflanze und Tier herauszuzichen. Die verwendeten sie dann zum Treiben ihrer Fahrzeuge, durch welche sie in geringer Höhe über der Erde sich fliegend fortbewegen konnten. Wir haben heute nur noch die Macht, das Leblose aus den Mineralien herauszuziehen, nicht aber die Fähigkeit, die Samenkräfte zu extrahieren. Durch das Extrahieren der Samenkräfte aus Tier und Pflanze haben sie diese in Beziehung zu Luft und Wasser gebracht. Sie haben die Luft und das Wasser mit den so frei gemachten Geistern erfüllt, welche nachher sich im Winde und im Wasser gegen sie empörten und ihnen den Untergang brachten.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":171,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/246/1908-12-28/p014"}],"english":["GA 246/1908-12-28/p014"],"method":"identity","confidence":"high","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":171,"en_words":180,"ratio":1.05,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"proposed","verified":false},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":1.07,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":1207,"original_word_count":1132,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"SOL2025","book_title":"Supplements to Member Lectures","publisher":"Steiner Online Library","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA246/English/SOL2025/19081228s01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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