{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 246/1911-06-07/p005","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"With such a statement, which resounds to us from ancient times, we only ever have to understand the right thing. What did the Egyptians mean when they said that the gods were our kings and the gods were our great teachers? - The person who said this to Herodotus himself said: \"If you were to go back to the ancient times of the Egyptian people and ask those people who felt something like a higher consciousness, like wisdom from higher worlds: Who is actually your teacher? - they would answer: If I wanted to speak of my real teacher, I would not have to point to this or that person and say: This or that person is my teacher, but if I want to find my teacher, I must first put myself into a clairvoyant state - we know from other lectures that this was relatively easy in ancient times - and then I will find my true inspirer, my true teacher; he only approaches me when my spiritual eye is open. - For in ancient Egypt such beings descended from the spiritual worlds to human beings who did not embody themselves in the human physical body. The gods still ruled and taught through the physical humans in the ancient, gray times of Egypt, and by “gods” the ancient Egyptians understood the beings that preceded humans in their development.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"43. The Spiritual Guidance of Man and Humanity III","site_heading":null,"date":"1911-06-07","location":null,"word_count":229,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/246/1911-06-07/p005","alignment_confidence":"high","alignment_reason":"beads:identity","two_voice_volume":false,"translation_credit":{"scope":"unit","status":"established","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"SOL2025","book_title":"Supplements to Member Lectures","publisher":"Steiner Online Library","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA246/English/SOL2025/19110607s01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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Was meinten die Ägypter, die sagten: Götter waren bei uns die Könige, Götter waren bei uns die großen Lehrer? - Da hat der, welcher das zu Herodot selber gesagt hat, gemeint: Wenn man in die alten Zeiten des ägyptischen Volkes zurückgehen würde und diejenigen Menschen, welche in sich etwas empfanden wie ein höheres Bewusstsein, wie eine Weisheit von höheren Welten, fragen würde: Wer ist eigentlich dein Lehrer? - so würden sie antworten: Wenn ich von meinem eigentlichen Lehrer sprechen wollte, müsste ich nicht auf diesen oder jenen Menschen zeigen und sagen: Dieser oder jener ist mein Lehrer, sondern wenn ich meinen Lehrer finden will, muss ich mich erst in einen hellsehenden Zustand versetzen - wir wissen aus anderen Vorträgen, dass dies verhältnismäßig leicht war in alten Zeiten -, und dann finde ich meinen wahren Inspirator, meinen wahren Lehrer; der naht mir nur, wenn mein geistiges Auge geöffnet ist. - Denn im alten Ägypten stiegen aus den geistigen Welten solche Wesenheiten zu den Menschen herunter, die sich nicht im menschlichen physischen Leib verkörperten. Es herrschten und lehrten durch die physischen Menschen in den alten, grauen Zeiten Ägyptens eben noch die Götter, und unter «Göttern» verstanden die alten Ägypter die Wesen, die dem Menschen in seiner Entwicklung vorangegangen sind.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":224,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/246/1911-06-07/p005"}],"english":["GA 246/1911-06-07/p005"],"method":"identity","confidence":"high","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":224,"en_words":229,"ratio":1.02,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"verified","verified":true,"evidence":["length","meaning","audit"]},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":1.03,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":7602,"original_word_count":7380,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"SOL2025","book_title":"Supplements to Member Lectures","publisher":"Steiner Online Library","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA246/English/SOL2025/19110607s01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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