{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 251/1922-05-21/p010","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"It seems to me that it would be unjustified for older members to feel dissatisfied with the progress and transformation of the anthroposophical movement because something else has been added to the original esoteric movement of the past – to what was distinctly esoteric in character. It has only been added, it has not been replaced. We may say that esotericism has not died out, but a further, different element has naturally entered into anthroposophical life. In order to gain a correct attitude towards this further, different element - regardless of whether we see in it something that we more or less accept or reject - we must say: we did not seek it, it more or less sought us. We must be clear about that. And just as we look with heartfelt, self-evident love at our esoteric element in the anthroposophical movement, so when it comes to relating this other element to our esotericism, we must not close our minds to the clear insight into what has very much entered the anthroposophical movement in recent times and taken its place alongside the esoteric. Do you not remember, I am addressing the older members among us, the small circles from which we started everywhere. At the beginning, the spread of our anthroposophical movement was also characterized by an esoteric element. It can be said that when anthroposophy was spread through the paths that were initially there for the wider public through the magazine “Lucifer - Gnosis”, this spread was also tainted with an esoteric character. Esoteric truths reached those who wanted to take note of them. Of course, one has to feel what was in the esoteric will of the time. But something gradually broke away from esotericism, which at first was basically not within our own control. At first, one might say, the matter went its own way, and within our ranks esotericism was further developed, which then took shape in the public lectures that were given. What was then there in a more or less - we may say - “finished state” developed and wanted something from us. It was not yet there in the time that preceded the war catastrophe; at that time it was only present in the very first traces in the very first beginnings. But it was already very strongly present when the catastrophe of the war entered into that stage which was present in about 1918. There was, so to speak, something present that had arisen without our direct participation, and it confronted us as something finished. And even if I can only characterize it with the degree of precision that is appropriate for a brief, sketchy description, I have to say that anthroposophy had penetrated into the most diverse circles of the world, especially into scientific circles. It had become known and had been judged, and people demanded “scientific justification” from anthroposophy. With this phenomenon, that something was simply there through the anthroposophical literature, which made demands that had to be met, something else was there at the same time: there were a number of younger scientists, and some older ones, who seriously examined anthroposophy from their scientific point of view and, from a wide variety of angles, gave certain parts of their world knowledge an anthroposophical character. Therefore, one can say: One is not at all in a position to answer the question: Is it now sympathetic or unsympathetic that the older, esoteric kind was joined by the newer one, which some perceive as perhaps “too” scientific, and that precisely this current, especially through the challenge of its opponents, has assumed an ever broader, public character. We cannot look at what has really come to us from outside with sympathies and antipathies, because it did not depend on us at all that it once stood there more or less ready. We can only say: the necessity arose to simply place anthroposophy in the scientific life of the present, which can be placed there without reservation, and which can fertilize and lead forward the highest scientific life of the present everywhere – leading it forward to those goals to which it must be led further.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"39. On the Character of the Present Day","site_heading":null,"date":"1922-05-21","location":null,"word_count":693,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/251/1922-05-21/p010","alignment_confidence":"high","alignment_reason":"beads:identity","two_voice_volume":false,"translation_credit":{"scope":"unit","status":"established","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"SOL2024","book_title":"The History of the Anthroposophical Society 1913–1922","publisher":"Steiner Online Library","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA251/English/SOL2024/19220521s01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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Das müssen wir uns schon vor die Seele rücken. Und ebenso, wie wir mit inniger, selbstverständlicher Liebe hinschauen auf unser esoterisches Element in der anthroposophischen Bewegung, so dürfen wir uns, wenn es sich darum handelt, dieses andere Element zu unserer Esoterik in Beziehung zu bringen, auf der anderen Seite nicht der klaren Einsicht darüber verschließen, was in der letzten Zeit sehr stark eingetreten ist in die anthroposophische Bewegung und sich neben das Esoterische hingestellt hat. Erinnern Sie sich doch, namentlich sage ich das zu den älteren unserer lieben Mitglieder, von welch kleinen Kreisen wir überall ausgegangen sind. Zunächst war allerdings auch die Verbreitung, die unsere anthroposophische Bewegung genommen hat, von einem esoterischen Charakter getragen. Man darf sagen: Als Anthroposophie ausgebreitet wurde auf den Wegen, die zuerst für die breitere Öffentlichkeit da waren durch die Zeitschrift «Lucifer - Gnosis», da war auch diese Ausbreitung mit einem esoterischen Charakter behaftet. Esoterische Wahrheiten drangen zu denjenigen, die von ihnen Kenntnis nehmen wollten. Gewiss, man muss dasjenige fühlen, was in dem damaligen esoterischen Wollen lag. Aber aus der Esoterik löste sich allmählich etwas los, was zunächst im Grunde genommen gar nicht innerhalb unserer eigenen Handhabung lag. Die Sache ging zuerst, man möchte sagen, einen eigenen Weg, und innerhalb unserer Reihen wurde die Esoterik weitergetrieben, die dann sich abschattete in den öffentlichen Vorträgen, die gehalten wurden. Es bildete sich dasjenige aus, was dann in einem mehr oder weniger - wir dürfen sagen - «fertigen Zustande» da war und etwas von uns haben wollte. Es war noch nicht da in der Zeit, die der Kriegskatastrophe voranging; es war damals erst in den allerersten Spuren in den allerersten Anfängen vorhanden. Aber es war schon sehr stark vorhanden, als dann die Kriegskatastrophe in jenes Stadium eintrat, das etwa 1918 da war. Da war sozusagen etwas da, das ohne unsere unmittelbare Anteilnahme entstanden war, und es trat uns als etwas Fertiges entgegen. Und wenn ich auch nur mit demjenigen Grade von Genauigkeit charakterisieren kann, der einer kurzen, skizzenhaften Charakteristik angemessen sein kann, so muss ich sagen: In die verschiedensten Kreise der Welt, namentlich auch in wissenschaftliche Kreise, war Anthroposophie eingedrungen, sie war in ihnen, bekannt geworden, war beurteilt worden, und man forderte von der Anthroposophie die «wissenschaftliche Rechtfertigung». Mit dieser Erscheinung, dass durch die anthroposophische Literatur einfach etwas da war, was Forderungen aufstellte, denen gegenüber man zurechtkommen musste, war zugleich etwas anderes da: Es war eine Anzahl jüngerer Wissenschafter da, zum Teil auch älterer, die sich ganz ernsthaft von ihrem wissenschaftlichen Denkerstandpunkte aus mit der Anthroposophie auseinandersetzten und von den verschiedensten Seiten her gewissen Partien der Welterkenntnis einen anthroposophischen Charakter gaben. Daher kann man sagen: Man ist gar nicht in der Lage, etwa die Frage zu beantworten: Ist es nun sympathisch oder unsympathisch, dass zu der älteren, esoterischen Art die neuere, von manchen als vielleicht «zu» wissenschaftlich empfundene Strömung hinzutrat, und dass gerade diese Strömung, namentlich auch durch die Herausforderung der Gegner, einen immer mehr und mehr breiten, öffentlichen Charakter angenommen hat. Wir können nicht mit Sympathien und Antipathien das, was da wirklich von außen an uns herangestürmt ist, betrachten, weil es gar nicht von uns abhing, dass es einmal mehr oder weniger fertig dastand. Wir können nur sagen: Die Notwendigkeit trat auf, einfach in das wissenschaftliche Leben auch der Gegenwart die Anthroposophie hineinzustellen, die durchaus hineingestellt werden kann, die überall das höchste wissenschaftliche Leben der Gegenwart befruchten und weiterführen kann — weiterführen kann zu denjenigen Zielen, zu denen es weitergeführt werden muss.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":695,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/251/1922-05-21/p010"}],"english":["GA 251/1922-05-21/p010"],"method":"identity","confidence":"high","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":695,"en_words":693,"ratio":1.0,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"verified","verified":true,"evidence":["length","meaning","anchors","audit"]},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":1.03,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":8564,"original_word_count":8348,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"SOL2024","book_title":"The History of the Anthroposophical Society 1913–1922","publisher":"Steiner Online Library","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA251/English/SOL2024/19220521s01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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