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We have no reason to relate to this disharmony other than to simply present it clearly to our souls — as clarity in all areas must be what is specifically intended for anthroposophical life. But one of the difficulties we face when we want to present anthroposophy to the world today — and it must be presented to the world because the world demands it — is that we have to present a kind of Janus face, so to speak. We encounter these difficulties everywhere. On the one hand, people read our philosophical and scientific treatises, on the other hand they read the more esoteric works, and thirdly they often read a more or less good combination of the two, and we simply have to be clear about the fact that much of what makes the work in the anthroposophical movement difficult comes from this. And it must also be part of our work to provide those with information when we believe that such information is appropriate: that it is connected with the historical development, that it is as I have characterized it. And in this regard, I would also appeal to the older members not to make things too difficult by acting in opposition to what they may not care about but which cannot be dispensed with in view of the demands that are being made on the anthroposophical movement today. One could even say: if one has gained an inner vision from the laws of the soul's development, which are quite justified and present, for example, from some historical phenomenon, and if one then hears how today our dear younger members – not on the paths by which some older members have gained an inner vision, I might say, as if 'flying' to the point of convincing power, but start with things that are of little interest to many older members: with the elements of physics or even with the elements of mathematics, and then move from these elements through strictly drawn logical conclusions to things that are again of little interest to those who already have the matter, and then do it again and again - and in this way, to a more or less expressed form of what the other person already knows through his quick intuitive way, then many feel as if they are where the deepest secrets of existence have been grasped at a certain level, and now someone comes along, climbs a ladder, then past the things and then back down. Many older members certainly feel these logical climbing skills. But the fact is that these older members should show understanding for the demands of the times and know that this cannot be otherwise, and that we are simply faced with an ironclad necessity.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"39. 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Das tritt gewissermaßen doch als etwas Disharmonisches in unserer anthroposophischen Bewegung heute auf. Wir haben keinen Grund, anders zu diesem Disharmonischen uns zu verhalten, als dass wir es eben klar vor unsere Seele hinstellen — wie überhaupt Klarheit auf allen Gebieten dasjenige sein muss, was gerade dem anthroposophischen Leben eigen sein soll. Aber zu den Schwierigkeiten, denen wir begegnen, wenn wir Anthroposophie heute vor der Welt vertreten wollen — und sie muss vor der Welt vertreten werden, weil die Welt es fordert -, zu diesen Schwierigkeiten gehört, dass wir eben sozusagen eine Art Janusgesicht zeigen müssen. Überall begegnet man diesen Schwierigkeiten. Auf der einen Seite lesen die Leute unsere philosophisch-wissenschaftlichen Abhandlungen, auf der anderen Seite lesen sie das mehr Esoterische, zum Dritten lesen sie oftmals eine etwas mehr oder weniger gute Verquickung von beiden, und wir müssen uns einfach klar sein, dass vieles von dem, was die Arbeit in der anthroposophischen Bewegung schwer macht, von diesem herrührt. Und es muss schon auch zu unserer Arbeit gehören, denjenigen Aufklärung zu verschaffen, bei denen wir glauben, dass solche Aufklärung angebracht ist: dass es mit dem historischen Werdegang zusammenhängt, dass es so ist, wie ich charakterisiert habe. Und ich möchte in dieser Beziehung auch an die älteren Mitglieder den Appell richten, nicht allzu viel dazu zu tun, die Arbeit dadurch zu erschweren, dass sie nun auch ihrerseits gegnerisch auftreten gegen das, was ihnen ja vielleicht gleichgültig ist, aber was nicht entbehrt werden kann gegenüber den Zeitforderungen, die heute einmal an die anthroposophische Bewegung gestellt werden. Man könnte sogar sagen: Wenn man aus denjenigen Entwicklungsgesetzen der Seele, die ja ganz berechtigt und vorhanden sind, eine innere Anschauung gewonnen hat zum Beispiel von irgendeiner geschichtlichen Erscheinung, und wenn man dann hört, wie heute unsere lieben jüngeren Mitglieder - nun nicht auf den Wegen, auf denen manches ältere Mitglied eine innere Anschauung, ich möchte sagen, wie «im Fluge» bis zur überzeugenden Kraft erlangt hat - vordringen, sondern anfangen bei Dingen, die vielen älteren Mitgliedern eben höchst gleichgültig sind: bei den Elementen der Physik oder gar bei den Elementen der Mathematik, und dann von diesen Elementen übergehen durch streng geschürzte logische Schlüsse zu Dingen, die wieder demjenigen, der die Sache schon hat, höchst gleichgültig sind, und dann wieder und wieder das machen - und auf diese Weise zu einer mehr oder weniger ausgepressten Gestalt desjenigen kommen, was der andere schon auf seinem schnellen intuitiven Wege weiß, dann kommen sich viele eben so vor, als wenn sie dort wären, wo man die tiefsten Geheimnisse des Daseins in einer bestimmten Höhe begriffen hat, und nun kommt einer, klettert dann eine Leiter hinauf, dann vorbei an den Dingen und dann wieder hinunter. Diese logischen Kletterkünste empfinden ganz gewiss viele ältere Mitglieder. 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