{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 257/1923-01-30/p019","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"But now, my dear friends, after re-casting a judgment in this way and experiencing its emergence out of an objective realm, one has the strong feeling that it occupies a place somewhere in oneself despite its objective recovery. So one can still feel that, in view of the responsibility one has to let the thing speak while remaining silent oneself, one should not express this kind of judgment on a spiritual-scientific matter. One therefore waits again, and perhaps again for years, for the second re-casting. As a result, one arrives at a third form of the judgment, and one will find a significant difference between the process that went on in the period between the first forming of the judgment and its first re-casting and the process it underwent between the first and second re-casting. One notices that it was comparatively easy to recall the judgment in the first time-interval described, while in the second it is extremely difficult to summon it up again, into such soul-depths has it descended, depths into which the easy judgments gleaned from the outer world never descend. Re-cast judgments of the kind I mean sink to the deepest levels of the soul, and one finds out what a struggle it costs to recall such a re-cast judgment between its first and second re-casting. By judgment I mean here an overview of the whole area covered by the fact in cases where the facts are of a spiritual-scientific nature. When one then arrives at the third form of the judgment, one knows that the judgment has been in the realm of the thing or process under study. In the period between its first forming and first re-casting it remained within one's own being, but in the second such interval it plunged into the realm of the objective spiritual fact or being. One sees that in its third shape the thing or being itself gives back the judgment in the form of a certain outlook one now has. Only now does one feel equal to communicating this view or judgment of a spiritual-scientific fact. The communication is made only after completing this twofold re-casting and thus arriving at the certainty that one's first view of the matter has pursued a path directly to the facts of the case and returned again. Indeed, a judgment of super-sensible things that is to find valid expression must be sent to the realm where the relevant facts or beings dwell.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"Lecture II","site_heading":"Spiritual-Scientific Judgment and Anthroposophical Consciousness","site_heading_note":"A heading the site wrote for this unit from a summary of it; not in the edition, and not the words of Rudolf Steiner or of the translator. 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So daß man also nach der zweiten Umschmelzung des Urteils eine dritte Gestalt des Urteils hat. Da wird man einen bedeutsamen Unterschied merken zwischen dem, was vorgeht in dem Zeitraum zwischen der ersten Fassung des Urteils und der ersten Umschmelzung, und zwischen der ersten Umschmelzung und der zweiten Umschmelzung. Man wird nämlich merken, daß man in einer verhältnismäßig leichten Weise zwischen dem ersten Fassen und der ersten Umschmelzung das Urteil wiederum in ‚das Gedächtnis heraufbringen konnte. Zwischen der ersten Umschmelzung und der zweiten Umschmelzung hat man die größte Mühe, das Urteil wieder in Erinnerung zu bringen, denn es geht in tiefe, tiefe Seelenuntergründe hinunter, in Seelenuntergründe, in die ein zunächst an der Außenwelt leicht geschürztes Urteil gar nicht hinuntergeht. Ein so umgeschmolzenes Urteil geht in tiefe Seelenuntergründe hinunter, und da lernt man erst kennen, wenn man dann ein solches Urteil zwischen der ersten Umschmelzung heraufbringen will in die Seele, wie es oft eines Ringens bedarf, um ein solches Urteil ins Gedächtnis zu rufen. Unter dem Urteile meine ich jetzt die Anschauung der ganzen Tatsache, wenn es sich auf eine geisteswissenschaftliche Tatsache bezieht. Und dann, wenn man das Urteil in der dritten Gestalt bekommt, dann weiß man, dieses Urteil ist bei der Sache oder bei dem Vorgang gewesen, auf den es sich bezieht oder auf die es sich bezieht. Das Urteil zwischen dem ersten Fassen und der ersten Umschmelzung ist noch bei einem selbst geblieben, aber zwischen dem ersten und zweiten Umschmelzen ist das Urteil untergetaucht in die objektiv geistige Tatsache oder die objektiv geistige Wesenheit, und man merkt: die Sache selber gibt einem mit dieser dritten Gestalt das Urteil, das eben eine Anschauung ist, zurück. Und jetzt erst fühlt man sich eigentlich gegenüber den geisteswissenschaftlichen Tatsachen berufen, Mitteilung von der Anschauung beziehungsweise dem Urteile zu machen. Mitteilung macht man erst dann, wenn man diese zweifache Umschmelzung vollzogen hat und dadurch die Gewißheit erhalten hat, daß dasjenige, was man erst angeschaut hat in der ersten Fassung, durch die Seele selber den Weg genommen hat zu den Tatsachen, zu den Dingen hin und von diesen wiederum zurückgekommen ist. 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