{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 271/1918-05-06/p025","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"I would like to present this from a different angle, where, however, apparently scientific language is used, and which points to something that must be developed more and more in order to bridge the gap between, on the one hand, the ordinary observation of reality and, on the other hand, the experience in artistic imagination and supersensible knowledge. I will ask: What is it that enables the creative musician to bring forth from his inner being that which lives in his notes? Here we must realize that what is usually called self-knowledge is still abstract. Even what mystics or nebulous theosophists imagine is something very abstract. If one believes that one experiences the divine in one's soul, then this is something very unclear and nebulous before the real, concrete seership. This becomes clear that on the one hand man has his inner experience, his thoughts, feelings, volitional impulses; he can immerse himself in them, call it mysticism, philosophy, science. If one learns to recognize the living, one knows: All this is too thin, even if one tries to condense it inwardly. Even with intense mysticism, one always flutters above reality, does not come close to true reality, only experiences inner images, experiences the effects of reality, and does not experience reality through ordinary contemplation of nature, which faces material processes.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"The Sources of Artistic Imagination and Supersensible Knowledge II","site_heading":null,"date":"1918-05-06","location":null,"word_count":220,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/271/1918-05-06/p025","alignment_confidence":"high","alignment_reason":"beads:identity","two_voice_volume":false,"translation_credit":{"scope":"unit","status":"established","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"SOL2024","book_title":"Understanding Art","publisher":"Steiner Online Library","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA271/English/SOL2024/19180506p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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Wenn man glaubt, man erlebe das Göttliche in seiner Seele, so ist das vor dem wirklichen, konkreten Sehertum etwas ganz Unklares, Nebuloses. Dieses wird klar, daß der Mensch auf einer Seite sein inneres Erleben hat, seine Gedanken, Gefühle, Willensimpulse; er kann sich da hineinversenken, nennt das Mystik, Philosophie, Wissenschaft. Lernt man das Lebendige erkennen, so weiß man: Das alles ist zu dünn, wenn man es auch innerlich zu verdichten versucht. Man flattert, selbst mit intensiver Mystik, immer über der Wirklichkeit, kommt nicht an die wahre Wirklichkeit heran, erlebt nur innerliche Abbilder, erlebt Wirkungen der Wirklichkeit, erlebt auch nicht Wirklichkeit durch gewöhnliche Naturanschauung, die den materiellen Prozessen gegenübersteht.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":209,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/271/1918-05-06/p025"}],"english":["GA 271/1918-05-06/p025"],"method":"identity","confidence":"high","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":209,"en_words":220,"ratio":1.05,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"verified","verified":true,"evidence":["length","meaning","audit"]},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":1.06,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":6883,"original_word_count":6492,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"SOL2024","book_title":"Understanding Art","publisher":"Steiner Online Library","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA271/English/SOL2024/19180506p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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