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When awake his modern view of the world prompts him to say: The description of the Saturn evolution in a book like Occult Science is pure and absolute nonsense! Of course he must say this. But as a complete human being he does not speak like this; for he carries within himself something through which he—if I may say so—knows unconsciously that there was once upon a time a Saturn existence. He does something which proves that he in a certain way unconsciously remembers this Saturn existence: he becomes an architect. Architecture would never have come into being if man did not now carry within himself the laws which were imprinted on his physical body during the ancient Saturn period. Yesterday we discussed how these laws in the physical body can be projected into the space outside, where they become the laws of architecture. Man mysteriously projects into the laws of architecture all that he took into his being during the ancient Saturn period. 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What does the human being do when he becomes totally absorbed in the creativity of architecture, either as the architect or as the observer or admirer? He lives within the Saturn laws of his physical body; if he immerses himself entirely into the laws of architecture, he forgets all about the life of his etheric body, his astral body and his ego: he becomes once more a Saturn man. All the impressions produced by architecture, its austerity, its chaste proportions, its silence which is yet so eloquent, result from the fact that, abandoning the higher members of his being, he immerses himself in what was given to him by the spirits of the higher hierarchies, the Thrones and Archai, who were active at the beginning of the Saturn period. 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Der heutige wachende Mensch mit seiner Weltanschauung kommt und sagt: Die Schilderung des Saturndaseins in einem solchen Buche wie die «Geheimwissenschaft» ist der reinste, absolute Unsinn! — Selbstverständlich. Aber der Mensch als ganzer Mensch sagt das nicht, sondern er trägt etwas in sich, wodurch er — gestatten Sie den Ausdruck unbewußt weiß, daß es einstmals ein Saturndasein gegeben hat. Er macht etwas, wodurch er dokumentiert, daß er gewissermaßen unbewußt sich an dieses Saturndasein erinnert. Das, was er macht, das ist: er wird zum Baukünstler. Denn es würde niemals eine Baukunst entstanden sein, wenn der Mensch heute nicht in sich tragen würde diejenigen Gesetze, welche dem Menschen schon während der alten Saturnzeit eingeprägt worden sind in seinen physischen Leib. Wir haben gestern auseinandergesetzt, wie diese Gesetze im physischen Leibe hinausprojiziert werden können in den Raum und dann draußen baukünstlerische Gesetze sind. Alles das, was der Mensch während der alten Saturnzeit in sich aufgenommen hat, das geheimnißt er hinein in die Gesetze der Architektur. Selbstverständlich muß er das mit den heutigen Mitteln tun, so daß sich, was uns da in den gegenwärtigen Werken der Baukunst entgegentritt, ganz anders ausnimmt als das, was wir von der «Saturnarchitektonik» kennen. Aber das Wesentliche, das Lebendige, das wir machen im baukünstlerischen Tun, ist das, was sich in den Menschen eingepflanzt hat durch das alte Saturndasein.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":263,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/275/1914-12-30/p007"},{"locus":"GA 275/1914-12-30/p008","passage_number":8,"text":"Nehmen wir dieses, was wir so vor unsere Seele führen, in einem noch tieferen Sinne. Was tut der Mensch, indem er ganz, sei es schaflend, sei es erkennend oder genießend, in der architektonischen Schöpfung aufgeht? Er lebt in den Saturngesetzen seines physischen Leibes, das heißt, er vergißt, wenn er sich ganz versenkt in die Gesetze der Architektur, alles das, was in ihm lebt als ätherischer Leib, als astralischer Leib und als Ich, er wird wieder Saturnmensch. 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