{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 276/1923-06-09/p023","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"Proceeding from the bottom of the picture to the really beautiful, to Mary herself rising into the realm of wisdom, we see that Titian was able to paint her beautifully because she has not yet arrived at, but only soars up toward, the realm of wisdom; and we feel that, were she to rise still higher, she must enter where art ceases. Below stand the Apostles. Here the artist has tried to express their earth-fettered character. But now a different danger threatens. Had he placed Mary further down, he could not have depicted her inward beauty. If Mary were to sit among the Apostles, she could not appear as she does as a kind of balance between heaven and earth; she would look different. She simply does not fit among the Apostles with their brownish tones. Not only are they subject to earthly gravity; something else has entered: the element of drawing takes hold. This you can see in Titian's picture. Why is it so?","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"Lecture VI","site_heading":"Painting and the Spiritual Radiance of Color","site_heading_note":"A heading the site wrote for this unit from a summary of it; not in the edition, and not the words of Rudolf Steiner or of the translator. Cite the unit by its title and locus, never by this heading, and do not quote it.","date":"1923-06-09","location":null,"word_count":165,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/276/1923-06-09/p023","alignment_confidence":"medium","alignment_reason":"beads:length","two_voice_volume":false,"translation_credit":{"scope":"unit","status":"established","translator":"Lisa D. 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Würde er seine Maria noch weiter herunten haben, so könnte er sie nicht in der sich innerlich selber tragenden Schönheit darstellen. Denn wenn die Maria etwa da unten wäre - man würde den Zweck nicht einsehen -, unter den Aposteln sitzen würde, ja, da könnte sie nicht so ausschauen, wie sie in der Mitte zwischen Himmel und Erde ausschaut. So könnte sie gar nicht ausschauen. Denn sehen Sie, unten stehen die Apostel in ihrer bräunlichen Färbung, da paßt die Maria nicht hinein. Denn wir können eigentlich nicht stehen bleiben dabei, daß unten die Apostel Erdenschwere in sich haben. Es muß etwas anderes eintreten. Da beginnt auch stark das Element des Zeichnens einzugreifen. Das können Sie gerade auf dem charakterisierten Bilde bei Tizian sehen, es beginnt stark das Zeichnen einzugreifen. 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