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Ich weiß auch gar nicht, was übrig bleiben soll für den Punischen Krieg, wenn Sie eine halbe Stunde wegnehmen für alles das.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":77,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/300a/1921-01-16/p039"},{"locus":"GA 300a/1921-01-16/p040","passage_number":40,"text":"EDITH RÖHRLE: Es war ein ganz kurzes Gedicht.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":8,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/300a/1921-01-16/p040"},{"locus":"GA 300a/1921-01-16/p041","passage_number":41,"text":"RUDOLF Steiner: Das ist eine phantastische Pädagogik! 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