{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 304/1921-09-26/p050","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"RUDOLF STEINER:  \nRegarding the relationship between pedagogical instincts and what I said today, I would like to make the following observations. In general, the two approaches need not be considered contradictory, but one must be clear about the whole process of human evolution. The farther back we go in human evolution, the more consciousness decreases, until we come to what corresponds to the entirely instinctive mode of behavior of the animal world. The natural course of development in human evolution is a gradual lessening of instinctual life and a gradual supplementing of instinctive behavior by a healthy, conscious grasp of life’s realities. We can see how important it is to bring about this transformation in the right way when we observe how, precisely in our times, previously healthy instincts have to a large extent fallen into disorder. For instance, while we can see quite clearly that children living in the country will grow up harmoniously even without a great deal of schooling, we can also see clearly that if we let city children depend on their instincts or—as has happened—if we seek to guide those instincts according to current pedagogical ideas, we can cause a great deal of harm. Unless, therefore, guided by our inner being, we are moved once more in a safe direction, we will not be able to foster wholesome and healthy conditions simply by calling abstractly for more instinctive ways of living—ways of living that in fact must today be replaced by powers of reasoning and intellect. Certainly, instinctive life still plays its part, but it is more and more on the wane.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"III. Knowledge of Health and Illness in Education","site_heading":null,"date":"1921-09-26","location":null,"word_count":267,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/304/1921-09-26/p050","alignment_confidence":"low","alignment_reason":"count_diverges","two_voice_volume":false,"translation_credit":{"scope":"unit","status":"established","translator":"René M. Querido","identified_edition":"AP1995","book_title":"Waldorf Education and Anthroposophy I","publisher":"Anthroposophic Press","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA304/English/AP1995/19210926d01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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Aber das ist eben der Gang der Menschheitsentwickelung, daß allmählich herausgekommen wird aus dem instinktiven Leben und das Instinktive ersetzt werden muß durch ein gesundes, besonnenes Auffassen der Wirklichkeit. Daß das durchaus in der richtigen Weise in Bahnen gebracht werden muß, das bezeugt uns ja eben, wie die Instinkte gerade in unserer Übergangszeit in hohem Grade in Unordnung kommen. Während man ganz gut sehen kann, daß zu jener Harmonie, die notwendig ist, sagen wir, die Kinder auf dem Lande auch ohne viel Schulbildung heranwachsen, finden wiir, daß in unseren Städten, wenn man sich auf die Instinkte verlassen würde, und namentlich dann, wenn man diese Instinkte so leiten würde, wie man es nach manchen pädagogischen Anleitungen getan hat, daß dann das Abträglichste zustande kommen würde. Wir würden, wenn wir nicht wiederum hineinlaufen würden in eine sichere Richtung, die wir durch unser Inneres geführt werden, wir würden schon nicht die Möglichkeit haben, etwa einfach durch ein abstraktes Berufen auf die Instinkte, denen wir ja doch in der neueren Zeit nur den Verstand entgegensetzen, zu etwas Heilsamem zu kommen. Gewiß, es ist vielfach noch das instinktive Leben vorhanden, aber es verliert sich immer mehr und mehr. Man braucht ja nur sich zu erinnern, um etwas recht Eklatantes zu sagen, an so etwas, was mir einmal begegnete, es tritt einem ja sonst vielfach entgegen, aber einmal bereitete es mir eine ganz, besondere Überraschung. Ich war eingeladen bei einem guten Freund, den ich früher als einen ganz gesunden Esser gekannt habe, der wußte, wann er genug hat. Nun war ich nach Jahren einmal wiederum in seinem Hause eingeladen und siehe da, neben seinem Teller stand eine Waage mit Gewichten, und er wog sich jedes Stückchen zu. Das war doch wohl ein deutlicher Beweis, daß da die Instinkte recht sehr zurückgegangen waren! Nun, solche Dinge aber, die man ja ganz symptomatisch beobachten kann, die findet man auch, wenn man zum Beispiel die heutigen Lehrpläne durchstudiert. Da ist durchaus nicht in das achte Jahr, in das neunte Jahr dasjenige eingereiht, was da drinnen sein sollte, was auch drinnen wäre, wenn gesunde Instinkte wirkten, sondern da wird nach ganz anderen, ganz abstrakten unmenschlichen oder außermenschlichen Regeln die Sache besorgt, und wir müssen wiederum zurückkommen, wir müssen wiederum in konkreter Weise erfassen dieses Ineinanderwirken von den konkreten gesundenden und kränkenden oder erkrankenden Tendenzen im Menschen. 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