{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 314/1920-10-08/p028","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"Indeed not. Particularly with the so-called mental illnesses it is absolutely clear that in every case one can indicate where the diminished organization of some organ resides. An individual who truly wishes to know the nature of melancholia or hypochondria driven to the point of mental illness must not wade around in the soul element; he should rather attempt to determine, from the condition of the abdominal organs of the person in question, how the diminished organization is influencing the person's abdominal organization. He should attempt to determine how a force of organization that works less strongly than normal allows something to precipitate out, so to speak—just as in chemistry one precipitates something out of a solution so that a sediment occurs—how a diminished force of organization in the physical-bodily element, which would otherwise be permeated by the force of organization, precipitates something out and how this precipitate is then present in the organism as something physical-bodily, how it is deposited in what takes place in the liver, gall, stomach, heart, and lungs. These processes are not so accessible to investigation as one would like nowadays, when people prefer to stick to the crude aspects—for histology also remains at the crude level. Psychology is necessary to such an investigation, but in every case it is necessary to lead the study of so-called mental illnesses back to the bodily condition.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"Lecture II","site_heading":"Spirit and Matter in Health and Illness","site_heading_note":"A heading the site wrote for this unit from a summary of it; not in the edition, and not the words of Rudolf Steiner or of the translator. Cite the unit by its title and locus, never by this heading, and do not quote it.","date":"1920-10-08","location":null,"word_count":229,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/314/1920-10-08/p028","alignment_confidence":"low","alignment_reason":"count_diverges","two_voice_volume":false,"translation_credit":{"scope":"unit","status":"established","translator":"Alice Wuslin and Gerald F. 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Denn interessant ist das Seltene, und es ist in unserer Zeit doch so, daß wenigstens noch als Seltenheit auftritt dasjenige, was in dieser Weise vom normalen Leben abweicht. Aber dabei stehenzubleiben, darum kann es sich nie handeln. Insbesondere kann es sich nicht darum handeln, etwa hinzutreiben zu dem laienhaft dilettantischen Urteil, daß der Geist und die Seele erkrankt seien, und daß man den Geist und die Seele nun irgendwie durch geistigseelische Maßnahmen, wie es sich die Abstraktlinge träumen, kurieren kann. Nein, gerade bei den sogenannten Geisteskrankheiten hängt es in eminentester Weise davon ab, daß man überall hinweisen kann darauf, wo die Unterorganisation irgendeines Organes sitzt. Derjenige, der eine bis zur Geisteskrankheit getriebene Melancholie oder Hypochondrie wirklich erkennen will, soll nicht im Seelischen herumwaten, sondern der soll versuchen, aus der Unterleibsbeschaffenheit des betreffenden Menschen zu erkennen, wie da die Unterorganisation in der Unterleibsorganisation des Menschen wirkt, wie eine unter dem normalen Maß wirkende Organisationskraft gewissermaßen etwas herausfallen läßt, wie man in der Chemie sagt; man fällt etwas heraus aus irgendeiner Lösung und dergleichen, so daß ein Bodensatz entsteht, wie dadurch eine zu geringe Organisationskraft Physisch-Leibliches, das sonst von der Organisationskraft durchdrungen wäre, herausfällt, wie es im Organismus als Physisch-Leibliches dann vorhanden ist, wie es abgelagert wird, was in Leber, in Galle, im Magen, im Herzen, in der Lunge vorgeht. Vorgänge, die allerdings nicht so bequem zu untersuchen sind, wie man gern möchte in unserer heutigen, an das Grobe — denn das Histologische ist auch ein Grobes — sich wendenden Zeit. 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