{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 314/1924-04-22/p010","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"And the smallpox vaccination? That is a peculiar case. You see, if you vaccinate someone and you educate them as an anthroposophist, it does no harm. It only harms those who grow up with predominantly materialistic thoughts. In such cases, vaccination becomes a kind of Ahrimanic force; the person can no longer rise above a certain materialistic feeling. And that is actually the most worrying thing about the smallpox vaccination, that people are virtually clothed with a phantom. The human being has a phantom that prevents him from getting rid of the soul entities as far from the physical organism as in normal consciousness. He becomes constitutionally materialistic, he can no longer rise to the spiritual. That is the worrying thing about vaccination. Of course, the statistics are always brought into play. The question is whether so much value has to be placed on statistics in these matters. With the smallpox vaccination, it is very much a psychological issue. It cannot be ruled out that the belief that the vaccination helps plays an incalculably large role. If this belief were replaced by something else, if people were educated in a way that would make them impressionable by something other than vaccination, for example, by bringing them closer to the spirit, it would be quite possible that, against the unconscious intrusion: here is a smallpox epidemic! - by complete consciousness of it: here is something spiritual, even if it is an unauthorized spiritual, against which I must protect myself! would work just as well as one would have to strengthen people against such influences.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"First Discussion","site_heading":"Etheric Plant Forces and Spiritual Diagnosis in Therapy","site_heading_note":"A heading the site wrote for this unit from a summary of it; not in the edition, and not the words of Rudolf Steiner or of the translator. 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Es schadet nur denjenigen, die mit vorzugsweise materialistischen Gedanken heranwachsen. Da wird das Impfen zu einer Art ahrimanischer Kraft; der Mensch kann sich nicht mehr erheben aus einem gewissen materialistischen Fühlen. Und das ist doch eigentlich das Bedenkliche an der Pockenimpfung, daß die Menschen geradezu mit einem Phantom durchkleidet werden. Der Mensch hat ein Phantom, das ihn verhindert, die seelischen Entitäten so weit loszukriegen vom physischen Organismus wie im normalen Bewußtsein. Er wird konstitutionell materialistisch, er kann sich nicht mehr erheben zum Geistigen. Das ist das Bedenkliche bei der Impfung. Natürlich handelt es sich darum, daß da die Statistik immer ins Feld geführt wird. Es ist die Frage, ob eben gerade in diesen Dingen auf die Statistik so viel Wert gelegt werden muß. Bei der Pockenimpfung handelt es sich sehr stark um etwas Psychisches. Es ist durchaus nicht ausgeschlossen, daß da der Glaube, daß die Impfung hilft, eine unberechenbar große Rolle spielt. Wenn man diesen Glauben durch etwas anderes ersetzen würde, wenn man naturgemäß erziehen würde die Menschen, so daß sie beeindruckbar wären durch etwas anderes als dadurch, daß man sie impft, etwa dadurch, daß man die Menschen wiederum an den Geist näher heranbrächte, so wäre es durchaus möglich, daß man gegen das unbewußte Hereindringen: hier ist Pockenepidemie! - durch vollständiges Bewußtsein davon: hier ist ein Geistiges, wenn auch ein unberechtigtes Geistiges, gegen das ich mich aufrechthalten muß! ebenso gut wirken würde, wie man überhaupt den Menschen stark machen müßte gegen solche Einflüsse.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":274,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/314/1924-04-22/p010"}],"english":["GA 314/1924-04-22/p010"],"method":"identity","confidence":"high","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":274,"en_words":263,"ratio":0.96,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"verified","verified":true,"evidence":["length","meaning","anchors","audit"]},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":1.05,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":5932,"original_word_count":5669,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"SOL2025","book_title":"Meetings with Practicing Physicians","publisher":"Steiner Online Library","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA314/English/SOL2025/19240422m01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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