{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 314/1924-04-23/p064","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"So the case is intended to show how one can really come to use therapeutically what is otherwise said more theoretically about the astral body and the etheric body. One can now be faced with the question that has always been raised by “well-meaning” people: Should one use the terms that have been used here as the naked truth and reality, or should one conceal them? “Well-meaning” people have said that one should not speak of the etheric body, but of functional processes or something similar. You can't get as far as the astral body that way. The fact of the matter is that most illnesses are not grasped in their essence if one does not go up to the astral body. The damage caused by the organization of the ego, that is, the severe damage caused by metabolic deposits: here the situation is such that this damage is already clearly present. On the other hand, the more insidious damage is the catabolic damage caused by the astral body. One really has to be very careful when talking about this.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"Second Discussion","site_heading":"Astral-Etheric Imbalance: Spiritual Diagnosis and Constitutional Remedy","site_heading_note":"A heading the site wrote for this unit from a summary of it; not in the edition, and not the words of Rudolf Steiner or of the translator. 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Man kann jetzt vor der Frage stehen, die immer von «wohlwollenden» Leuten aufgeworfen worden ist: Soll man die Ausdrücke, die hier gebraucht worden sind, als die nackte Wahrheit und Wirklichkeit sagen, oder soll man sie kaschieren? — «Wohlwollende» Leute haben gesagt, man soll nicht Atherleiib sagen, sondern funktionelle Prozesse oder ähnlich. Da kann man bis zum Astralleib nicht heraufkommen. Nun liegt die Sache so, daß die meisten Krankheiten nicht getroffen werden in ihrem Wesen, wenn man nicht bis zum Astralleib hinaufgeht. Die Schädigungen, die durch die Ich-Organisation eintreten, also die starken Schädigungen, die auftreten durch Stoffwechselablagerungen: da liegt die Sache so, daß sie schon offenbar da sind, diese Schädigungen. Dagegen mehr heimtückisch sind die Abbauschädigungen, die durch den Astralleib auftreten. 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