{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 314/1924-04-23/p079","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"On the other hand, one could just as well say that it should, of course, be meditative. You can meditate on rheumatoid arthritis, you can meditate on diabetes. But that would only drive you back. Meditating on a disease process according to the symptoms is a very good way to arrive at spiritual scientific observation. It is just not easy to go the other way around. You can even do it like the homeopaths, who put together the symptom complex and then do the therapy. Only there it happens – I don't even say it can, I know it is so – again and again that symptoms are overestimated and underestimated, that they are put together wrongly, so that sometimes a symptom complex put together by homeopaths is a caricature of reality. When you meditate on this, you meditate on caricatures. If you have a real spiritual cause, that is decisive for the complex of symptoms, then you do not overestimate or underestimate any of the symptoms. You will have noticed that the symptoms we have presented are not caricatures, but well-formed complexes of symptoms. When you meditate, you come to the impossibility of making spiritual findings. And if someone says that is not possible, I must say: try it, but not with a randomly composed complex of symptoms, but with one that has been established by spiritual science.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"Second Discussion","site_heading":"Astral-Etheric Imbalance: Spiritual Diagnosis and Constitutional Remedy","site_heading_note":"A heading the site wrote for this unit from a summary of it; not in the edition, and not the words of Rudolf Steiner or of the translator. 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Es ist das ein sehr guter Weg, um zu geisteswissenschaftlicher Beobachtung zu kommen, wenn Sie einen Krankheitsprozeß nach den Symptomen meditieren. Es kann nur nicht leicht der umgekehrte Weg gegangen werden. Sie können es sogar machen wie die Homöopathen, die den Symptomenkomplex zusammensetzen und nach diesem die Therapie machen. Nur da kommt es — ich sage nicht einmal: es kann, ich weiß, daß es so ist — immer wieder vor, daß Symptome überschätzt und unterschätzt werden, daß sie falsch zusammengestellt werden, so daß zuweilen ein Symptomenkomplex, der von Homöopathen zusammengesetzt ist, überhaupt eine Karikatur der Wirklichkeit ist. Wenn Sie das meditieren, meditieren Sie sich hinein in die Karikaturen. Wenn Sie eine wirkliche geisteswissenschaftliche Ursache haben, ist das maßgebend für den Symptomenkomplex, dann überschätzen und unterschätzen Sie keines der Symptome. Sie werden bemerkt haben, die Symptome haben wir vorangestellt, das sind keine Karikaturen, sondern gut ausgebildete Symptomenkomplexe. Wenn Sie meditieren, kommen Sie zur Unmöglichkeit, geisteswissenschaftliche Befunde zu machen. 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