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If you find that the etheric body of a child is in some way weakened or deficient, you must form, you must modify, your own astral body in such a way that it can work upon the etheric body of the child, correcting and amending it. We could, in fact, make a diagram to demonstrate how this principle works in education:","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":67,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/317/1924-06-26/p023","german_anchor":{"de_prefix":"1924-06-26","de_passages":[{"locus":"GA 317/1924-06-26/p025","url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/317/1924-06-26/p025"},{"locus":"GA 317/1924-06-26/p026","url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/317/1924-06-26/p026"}],"bead_confidence":"medium","length_check":{"de_words":146,"en_words":213,"ratio":1.46,"partial":false},"correspondence":"established","note":"English passage numbering is edition-relative, so the same number need not name the same paragraph in the German. 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Education is indeed veiled in many mysteries.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":146,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/317/1924-06-26/p024","german_anchor":{"de_prefix":"1924-06-26","de_passages":[{"locus":"GA 317/1924-06-26/p025","url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/317/1924-06-26/p025"},{"locus":"GA 317/1924-06-26/p026","url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/317/1924-06-26/p026"}],"bead_confidence":"medium","length_check":{"de_words":146,"en_words":213,"ratio":1.46,"partial":false},"correspondence":"established","note":"English passage numbering is edition-relative, so the same number need not name the same paragraph in the German. 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Zur Entwickelung auf den physischen Leib kann wirksam sein ein im Ätherleib Lebendes, in einem ätherischen Leib Lebendes. Zur Entwickelung auf einen Ätherleib kann nur wirksam ein in einem astralischen Leib Lebendes sein. Zur Entwickelung auf einen astralischen Leib kann wirksam nur ein in einem Ich Lebendes sein. Und auf ein Ich kann wirksam sein nur ein in einem Geistselbst Lebendes. Ich könnte es noch weiter fortführen über das Geistselbst hinaus, aber da würden wir schon in die Unterweisung des Esoterischen hineinkommen.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":128,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/317/1924-06-26/p023"},{"locus":"GA 317/1924-06-26/p024","passage_number":24,"text":"Was heißt das? Wenn Sie gewahr werden, daß in einem Kinde der Ätherleib in irgendeiner Weise verkümmert ist, so müssen Sie Ihren eigenen astralischen Leib so gestalten, daß er korrigierend auf den Ätherleib des Kindes wirken kann. Wir können geradezu sagen, mit Bezug auf das Erziehungsschema kann hierher geschrieben werden:","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":50,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/317/1924-06-26/p024"},{"locus":"GA 317/1924-06-26/p025","passage_number":25,"text":"Kind: physischer Leib Erzieher: Ätherleib  \nÄtherleib astralischer Leib  \nastralischer Leib Ich Ich Geistselbst","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":13,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/317/1924-06-26/p025"},{"locus":"GA 317/1924-06-26/p026","passage_number":26,"text":"Der eigene Ätherleib des Erziehers muß — und das muß durch seine Seminarvorbildung geschehen -, er muß auf den physischen Leib des Kindes wirken können. Der eigene astralische Leib muß auf den Ätherleib des Kindes wirken können. Das eigene Ich des Erziehers muß auf den Astralleib des Kindes wirken können. Und jetzt werden Sie innerlich sogar erschrecken, denn hier steht das Geistselbst des Erziehers, von dem Sie glauben werden, daß es nicht entwickelt ist. Das muß auf das Ich des Kindes wirken. Aber das Gesetz ist so. Und ich werde Ihnen zeigen, inwiefern tatsächlich nicht bloß im Idealerzieher, sondern oftmals im allerschlechtesten Erzieher das Geistselbst des Erziehers, das ihm selber gar nicht zum Bewußtsein kommt, auf das Ich des Kindes wirkt. Das Erziehungswesen ist in der Tat in eine Reihe von Mysterien eingehüllt.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":133,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/317/1924-06-26/p026"},{"locus":"GA 317/1924-06-26/p027","passage_number":27,"text":"Aber jetzt geht uns auf, daß auf den verkümmerten Ätherleib des Kindes der gesundende astralische Leib des Erziehers wirken muß. Und sehen Sie, wie kann mit Rücksicht gerade auf diese Dinge der Astralleib des Erziehers erzogen werden, selbsterzogen werden, wie es ja heute noch sein muß? Denn Anthroposophie kann heute nur Anregung geben, nicht für alles gleich Seminare begründen. Der eigene Astralleib des Erziehers muß so beschaffen sein, daß er ein instinktives Verständnis hat für die Verkümmerungen im Ätherleibe des Kindes.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":81,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/317/1924-06-26/p027"},{"locus":"GA 317/1924-06-26/p028","passage_number":28,"text":"Nehmen wir an, es sei in der Lebergegend des Kindes der Ätherleib verkümmert. Dadurch wird in dem Kinde die Erscheinung hervorgebracht, daß es mit seinen Intentionen dasteht, immer will, aber dieses Wollen ihm immer vor der Tat stoppt. Wenn nun der Erzieher innerlich sich ganz hineinfühlen kann in diese Lage, daß man mit seinem Willen sich durchdrücken muß in die Tat, wenn man mitfühlen kann dieses Stoppen und zu gleicher Zeit entwickeln kann aus seiner eigenen Energie heraus ein tiefes Mitleid mit diesem so innerlich Erlebten, dann bildet man im eigenen Astralleib das Verständnis aus für diese Lage des Kindes, und man wird nach und nach dazu kommen, jede Spur von Sympathie oder Antipathie mit dieser Erscheinung bei dem Kinde in sich auszutilgen. Dadurch, daß der Erzieher die Sympathie und Antipathie in sich austilgt, dadurch wirkt er erzieherisch auf seinen eigenen Astralleib. Solange man mit einer solchen Eigenschaft des Kindes, daß es zum Beispiel gehen will und nicht gehen kann - das kann bis in pathologische Zustände hineingehen, das kann in auffällige Zustände hineingehen; es geht immer in pathologische Zustände hinein, bis, ich möchte sagen, bis in ganz auffällige pathologische Zustände, die man so bezeichnet, daß man sagt, das Kind kann nicht gehen lernen -, solange man damit Sympathie oder Antipathie hat, wenn es in gelindem Maße auftritt, solange man in Erregung kommen kann dabei, so lange kann man eigentlich noch nicht wirksam erziehen. Erst dann, wenn man es so weit gebracht hat, daß einem eine solche Erscheinung zum objektiven Bild wird, daß man sie mit einer gewissen Gelassenheit als objektives Bild nimmt und nichts anderes dafür empfindet als Mitleid, dann ist die im astralischen Leib befindliche Seelenverfassung da, die in richtiger Weise den Erzieher neben das Kind hinstellt. Und dann wird er alles übrige mehr oder weniger richtig besorgen. Denn, meine lieben Freunde, Sie glauben gar nicht, wie gleichgültig es im Grunde genommen ist, was man als Erzieher oberflächlich redet oder nicht redet, und wie stark es von Belang ist, wie man als Erzieher selbst ist.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":337,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/317/1924-06-26/p028"}],"beads":[{"from":[21,22],"to":[23,24],"confidence":"medium"},{"from":[23,24],"to":[25,26],"confidence":"medium"},{"from":[25,26],"to":[27,28],"confidence":"medium"}],"note":"Paired by the paragraph aligner; each language numbers its own paragraphs. A bead at either end of the span can carry text beyond it (the `from` numbers show what each bead covers)."}}