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But the very thing that is of first importance for us to know, when we set out to understand these illnesses, simply cannot be known, if we know nothing of the astral body and of the ego organisation. For we have to proceed with our investigation in the following way.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":146,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/317/1924-06-27/p005","german_anchor":{"de_prefix":"1924-06-27","de_passages":[{"locus":"GA 317/1924-06-27/p004","url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/317/1924-06-27/p004"},{"locus":"GA 317/1924-06-27/p005","url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/317/1924-06-27/p005"}],"bead_confidence":"medium","length_check":{"de_words":340,"en_words":417,"ratio":1.23,"partial":false},"correspondence":"established","note":"English passage numbering is edition-relative, so the same number need not name the same paragraph in the German. 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This connection is maintained throughout life, from conception, from the embryonic state, right until death; for it continues also through all the periods of sleep. On the other hand, the connection of these two with astral body and ego organisation is broken every time we fall asleep. Now it is essential for us to have a correct picture of how it is with ego organisation and astral body in the waking state, when they are within the physical and etheric bodies. An accurate perception of the particular way in which astral body and ego are membered into the physical and etheric bodies is indispensable if we are to be able to think intelligently about those who are suffering from so-called mental disease. It is commonly believed even among Anthroposophists—not that Anthroposophy, which is very precise in its statements, gives occasion for such a belief, but because it is so easy to cling to old and accustomed habits of thought—it is, I say, commonly believed that when the human being wakes up, his astral body and ego organisation go straight over into his physical body and etheric body, combining with them in very much the same way as hydrogen and oxygen combine in water. It is not like that. Seen clairvoyantly, it is like this[^2] If we have *here* the physical body, and *here* the etheric body, then, at the time of awaking, the astral body does certainly come in, the ego organisation also comes in; yes, they come in, and one can perceive how astral body and ego organisation, entering in, proceed to lay hold of the physical and the ether body. But this is not all. For here we meet with a fact of human life that is of great importance.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":302,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/317/1924-06-27/p006","german_anchor":{"de_prefix":"1924-06-27","de_passages":[{"locus":"GA 317/1924-06-27/p006","url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/317/1924-06-27/p006"}],"bead_confidence":"medium","length_check":{"de_words":226,"en_words":302,"ratio":1.34,"partial":false},"correspondence":"established","note":"English passage numbering is edition-relative, so the same number need not name the same paragraph in the German. 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When, at the moment of awaking, the ego organisation returns, it does not lay hold merely of the etheric body and physical body; *within* these, it lays hold of the external world, of the forces of the external world. What does this mean? Imagine we have here the force of gravity. It works in *this* direction. When we are awake, we stand up in the direction of the force of gravity.[^3] Picture to yourself gravity simply as a force working in this direction—the direction of the forces of weight. Now there are two ways of looking at the matter. Let us be quite clear about these two ways. The first is as follows. The ego, we could say, lays hold of the physical body (for the moment, we will leave the etheric body out of the picture), and the physical body adapts itself to gravity. We place ourselves, do we not, into the forces of gravity when we walk; we have to find our equilibrium, and so on. This is one possible way of looking at what happens: on awaking we lay hold of the physical body with our ego, and the physical body being heavy, being subject to the gravity of the earth, we are now subject with our physical body to the gravity of the earth, we are connected—indirectly, through the physical body—with the physical force of gravity. Seen from this point of view, it is something like what happens when I take up a book: the weight of the book connects me indirectly with the force of gravity. That, then, is one possible picture of the situation. It is however false, it is incorrect. Let us now consider the other. Here we have to see what takes place, in the following way. The ego slips into the physical body, lays hold of the physical body—slips in so far that it makes the physical body light. Through the ego's gliding into it, the physical body loses its weight. And so when I, as an awake human being, stand upright, then for my consciousness—for my ego, for my ego organisation which has also its physical expression in the warmth organism—gravity is overcome. There is no question here of the ego entering into *indirect* connection with gravity. The ego, the I, enters into direct connection, places itself as ego right into gravity, shutting the physical body completely out of the process. And that is how the matter really stands. When you walk, you place yourself, with your ego organisation, right into the actual gravity of the earth; and you do not do this via the physical body, you yourself enter into direct connection with the earthly.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":451,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/317/1924-06-27/p007","german_anchor":{"de_prefix":"1924-06-27","de_passages":[{"locus":"GA 317/1924-06-27/p007","url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/317/1924-06-27/p007"}],"bead_confidence":"medium","length_check":{"de_words":371,"en_words":451,"ratio":1.22,"partial":false},"correspondence":"established","note":"English passage numbering is edition-relative, so the same number need not name the same paragraph in the German. 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I have often drawn attention to the fact that we human beings, as we go about on the earth, are subject to a strong force of buoyancy. We have a brain which weighs, on the average, 1,500 grammes. If the whole weight of the brain were to press on its base, the delicate blood vessels of the latter would be crushed at once. The brain does not do this, but swims in the cerebral fluid and becomes thereby subject to a force of buoyancy. It loses as much of its weight as the weight of the fluid displaced. The fluid displaced weighs about 20 grammes less than the brain itself; therefore, the brain presses on its base with a weight only of 20 grammes. So we have a heavy brain that is however not borne down with its weight, but has buoyancy. In this buoyancy we live. Our ether body lives in the buoyancy. But when we with our ego organisation slip into our ether body, then our ego is within the buoyancy, not merely indirectly, but directly. We are in the buoyancy with our ego. Our human organisation stands, in fact, in connection with all the forces of the earth, with the whole physical world, and not indirectly, but directly.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":232,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/317/1924-06-27/p008","german_anchor":{"de_prefix":"1924-06-27","de_passages":[{"locus":"GA 317/1924-06-27/p008","url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/317/1924-06-27/p008"}],"bead_confidence":"medium","length_check":{"de_words":206,"en_words":232,"ratio":1.13,"partial":false},"correspondence":"established","note":"English passage numbering is edition-relative, so the same number need not name the same paragraph in the German. 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For there is no such thing as what the physicists call *matter*. In reality there are only forces and the forces—as, for example, gravity (there are other forces too, of course; magnetic and electric forces are all alike in this, that the ego organisation is in direct connection with each one of them and, in the normal human being, is so during the whole of waking life. All that we include under the term “earth” is, really, these forces. Then the ego organisation stands in direct connection also with all that is comprised under the term “water” and is in a state of equilibrium; and it is moreover directly connected also with all that is of the nature of “air”, with all that is gaseous. You know how in physics one has to learn, in addition to ordinary mechanics, a hydro-mechanics and also an aero-mechanics, the reason being that the processes of equilibrium (in water) and the meteorological processes in the air have each their own peculiar character. Finally, the ego organisation is directly connected with a part of the all-pervading “warmth” through which we are continually moving as long as we live in the physical world.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":219,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/317/1924-06-27/p009","german_anchor":{"de_prefix":"1924-06-27","de_passages":[{"locus":"GA 317/1924-06-27/p009","url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/317/1924-06-27/p009"},{"locus":"GA 317/1924-06-27/p010","url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/317/1924-06-27/p010"}],"bead_confidence":"medium","length_check":{"de_words":197,"en_words":219,"ratio":1.11,"partial":false},"correspondence":"established","note":"English passage numbering is edition-relative, so the same number need not name the same paragraph in the German. 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We wake up, and place ourselves with our ego organisation—place ourselves as spirit—into the world of earthly forces. Our connection with these forces is in reality not a physically mediated, but a *magical* connection, a magical connection however which can take effect only within a particular space—namely, within the boundaries of our organism. When you have begun to understand that this connection is not a physical, but a magical connection, then you have taken a good step forward.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":100,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/317/1924-06-27/p010","german_anchor":{"de_prefix":"1924-06-27","de_passages":[{"locus":"GA 317/1924-06-27/p011","url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/317/1924-06-27/p011"},{"locus":"GA 317/1924-06-27/p012","url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/317/1924-06-27/p012"}],"bead_confidence":"medium","length_check":{"de_words":89,"en_words":100,"ratio":1.12,"partial":false},"correspondence":"established","note":"English passage numbering is edition-relative, so the same number need not name the same paragraph in the German. 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The astral body is also connected with certain forces that work upon us when we are awake, and here too the connection is *direct*—not indirect, not merely through the ether body. Among these forces we have again a part of the force of “warmth”. (You must remember, throughout, that the warmth element works in two directions; part of it reacts on the physical body, and part on the etheric body.) Then, the astral body is directly connected also with the forces of “light”. You must know however that what Spiritual Science speaks of as forces of light is not identical with what modern physics understands by the term. We do not want here to enter into a discussion of theories, but let me suggest the following. You look out upon the world around you, and perceive it all lit up. What enables you to do this? Something gives you the capacity to perceive the world illumined in this way, and it is something in the ether. Light is, in fact, an *ether force*. Modern science speaks of light as of something that is present where we see things illumined. Spiritual Science speaks of light in another way. It calls “light” that which underlies other sense-perceptions too; it speaks, for example, of the light of perceptions of sound. Present-day physics, when it speaks of perceptions of sound, is in reality speaking merely of their external correlate—namely, the vibration of the air. The movements in the air are but the medium of the real sound or tone, which is something etheric; the vibrating that goes on in the etheric brings about the vibration of the air. Light lives also in the perceptions of smell. In short, all perceptions have as their basis a light of a kind that is much more all-pervading than the light that is spoken of in the physics of the present day. I admit, people are liable to grow confused when we speak of light in this way. For, although it was so spoken of in ancient spiritual knowledge and even as late as the 12th and 13th centuries, all understanding of it was then lost and people began to use other names for it, which are still less intelligible! This is what makes all the alchemical books written after the 12th century so very difficult to follow. What is important for you, however, at the moment is to know that this is what we mean by “light”. Now the astral body is connected with this light; that is to say, it has direct relation—not indirect through the etheric body—with all that underlies sense-perception on the earth. This is a most interesting fact. Outside lives the light in the ether, but we have also the etheric within us. The light works upon our ether body. When we wake up, we not only come into connection with the light that is within us; but, turning aside as it were from the light that is within us, we member ourselves into the light that streams through the external world. It is the same with the external “chemical forces” that are at work in the world around us. Into these too we member ourselves, directly. And this is very important, for it means that, while he is awake, man is membered into a kind of cosmic chemistry. Modern science knows the chemistry of the lifeless, but has very little understanding of organic chemical processes; it has no knowledge at all of the chemistry that is a universal world-chemistry. And this cosmic chemistry it is, of which we become part and member when we awake from sleep. Similarly, we become part and member of the all-pervading cosmic life, the “life ether”—again, directly.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":629,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/317/1924-06-27/p011","german_anchor":{"de_prefix":"1924-06-27","de_passages":[{"locus":"GA 317/1924-06-27/p013","url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/317/1924-06-27/p013"}],"bead_confidence":"medium","length_check":{"de_words":506,"en_words":629,"ratio":1.24,"partial":false},"correspondence":"established","note":"English passage numbering is edition-relative, so the same number need not name the same paragraph in the German. 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In its study of the organisation of the *eye*, physics proceeds in a way that one could only wish might be followed in many domains. The eye is regarded, as you know, in physics as a contrivance, a mechanism, an instrument that works in accordance with the laws of physics. In order to come to a clear comprehension of the eye, the physicist makes drawings of it, in which he demonstrates the refraction of light through a lens, the formation of the objective picture, and so forth—the very same kind of drawings as he would make for a mechanical instrument. What the physicist is unable to do is to pass on then to the way in which the element of *soul* enters into this mechanical instrument. The whole thing is exceedingly interesting. The physicists have before them this complete picture of the eye. But there they come to a standstill. What they would like to do is to find their way to the element of *soul through the brain*. Just look at all their queer somersaults in thought, all those interesting, but in fact nonsensical theories of psycho-physical parallelism or interaction! The truth is that the ego organisation and the astral body come straight into the physical eye itself, the eye that we can draw and describe; there, within the eye, the ego and astral body take immediate hold of the physical. Nevertheless, just in the case of the eye, the scientists do, as you see, come very near understanding the true state of affairs. They can, in fact, hardly help doing so, owing to the peculiar seclusion of the eye; for the eye lies almost outside the body, it is built in from without during embryonic development. And so, in the case of the eye, a certain measure of understanding is attained. But the fact is, what is thus seen to be true of the eye holds good for the whole human organism. The whole human organism has to be understood in the light of an inner physics, a spiritual physics, a physics that allows for the subtle, more fleeting light-forces to be added to the earthly forces. 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It can quite well happen that in the case of some organ (it cannot be the whole organism) the human being has no possibility of making direct connection, by means of this organ, with the external world. The organ stands in the way, as it were, making it impossible for the human being to find contact with the external world via that organ. What will be the result? Let us take, for example, the lung. The lung may be so placed in the human organism that when the human being wakes up, he is not able to make contact with the external world. Imagine he is asleep. While he is asleep something happens in his lung which has the effect that if he were now to wake up, he would come down into the lung but would not be able to get out again, to get through to the external world. His ego and astral body would be under necessity to press into the lung, to squeeze themselves into it; but they would not be able to come forth again. What the human being *should* be able to do, as you know, is to come down with his astral body and then come forth again into the world in all directions. The lung should be merely the way through. But in this case, the lung does not provide any free passage; it holds fast the ego and astral body—that is to say, it will do so if the human being wakes up. The unfortunate thing is that when such a condition is present, he always does wake up. For, owing to the special way that the chemical processes are at work in such a case, and infiltration of some substance in fine distribution enters into the lung; the lung organisation which is already in some way misplaced, gets filled with a fine substance that has special affinity for it. The lung is then irregular; consequently the human being wakes up. But how? He wakes up, without gaining consciousness. In order to gain consciousness he would have to come forth from the lung; for he can acquire consciousness only when he has succeeded in penetrating right through. If he has merely come *in*, he wakes up; if he succeeds in pressing his way *through*, he gains consciousness. In the case we are considering, he stops short, he remains in the organ; and sleep which is healthy unconsciousness, passes over into pathological unconsciousness. 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Epilepsy is just the condition I have been describing—and especially so in the years of childhood. The epileptic is able to dive down with his ego organisation and astral body into the physical body and ether body—that, he can do; but he does not come forth into the physical world, he is held fast within. Let us consider then how it will be if the astral body enters into the lung, and is held fast there, cannot get out again. The astral body will remain pressed against the surface of the lung; astral body and ego organisation will be, so to speak, damned up, congested beneath the surface of the organ. This condition then manifests outwardly as a fit. That is what fits really are. Every time a fit occurs, an inner congestion is taking place at the surface of one or other organ. These congestions are to be found, above all, in the brain. But we know how the parts of the brain are related to the other parts of the body; a congestion in the brain may be due entirely to the fact that congestion is present in the liver, or in the lung, in which case the cerebral congestion is only a projection, a feebler copy of the congestion in the bodily organ. Whenever a fit occurs, this congestion of ego organisation and astral body within an organ can be observed. And so we have at last found our way to the true cause of epileptic fits. Everything else that can be said about them amounts to no more than a description of the external phenomena. You see now how impossible it is to come to a true knowledge of epilepsy unless we are able to go beyond physical body and etheric body and take into account also ego and astral body. Nothing of any real value can be said about fits if we do not know that at the surface of some organ, astral body and ego organisation are being terribly squeezed and crushed. 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Dazu würde man eigene Sanatorien brauchen für diese Geisteskranken,wo man erwachsene Geisteskranke — wenn auch außerordentlich schwer — heilen könnte; ich meine Kranke besonderer Art, besonders solche Fälle, die uns für das kindliche Alter wichtig sind. Andererseits werden Sie sehen, daß man durch eine richtige pädagogische Behandlung im kindlichen Alter durchaus helfen kann. Und wir werden sehen, daß dasjenige, was auch zu dem Schwersten gehört, wenn man es bei dem Erwachsenen vorliegen hat, zum Beispiel die Epilepsie, eigentlich in frühem Kindheitsstadium viel Aussicht hat, ausgebessert oder gar weggebracht zu werden, wenn man die Sache nur richtig ansehen kann. Man kommt dann schon im einzelnen individuellen Falle zu den Maßregeln, wenn man das Prinzip des Überganges kennt von dem, was zugrunde liegt, zu dem, was man tun soll. Aber man muß eben wissen, was der Erkrankung zugrunde liegt.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":181,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/317/1924-06-27/p004"},{"locus":"GA 317/1924-06-27/p005","passage_number":5,"text":"Nun, sehen Sie, daß man das mit der heutigen Psychiatrie nicht wissen kann, das beruht darauf, daß man heute gar keine Ahnung hat, daß es so etwas wie eine besondere Ich-Organisation oder einen besonderen astralischen Leib gibt, sogar den Ätherleib leugnet man heute noch vielfach. Ich bestehe nicht auf Namen, aber wenn gewisse Leute aus der Theorie heraus von gewissen Begriffen sprechen wie Driesch, so erkennen sie den Ätherleib nicht, weil sie sich davor fürchten. Aber immerhin vom Physischen aus dringt zu der Erkenntnis des OrganischÄtherischen die heutige Wissenschaft schon vor. Nun ist das Wichtige, was man nicht wissen kann, wenn man vom astralischen Leib und der Ich-Organisation nichts weiß, dieses: Nehmen Sie einmal zuerst den Zusammenhang zwischen physischem Leib und ätherischem Leib. Er bleibt aufrechterhalten das ganze Leben hindurch, von der Konzeption, vom Embryonalzustand bis zum Tode, denn er geht durch alle Schlafzustände hindurch. Dagegen wird durch jeden Schlaf hindurch unterbrochen der Zusammenhang mit astralischem Leib und Ich-Organisation.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":159,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/317/1924-06-27/p005"},{"locus":"GA 317/1924-06-27/p006","passage_number":6,"text":"Die Art und Weise, wie sich nun die Ich-Organisation und der astralische Leib im Wachzustande im physischen Leib und Ätherleib verhalten, muß richtig angesehen werden, wenn man überhaupt einen realen Begriff über sogenannte Geisteskranke haben will. Es ist unerläßlich, daß man diese Eingliederung des astralischen Leibes und des Ichs in den physischen Leib und ätherischen Leib ihrem Wesen nach kennt, wenn man überhaupt einen vernünftigen Gedanken fassen will über eine sogenannte Geisteskrankheit. Nun, sehen Sie, gewöhnlich glauben auch die Anthroposophen — nicht weil die Anthroposophie, die sehr präzise in ihren Formulierungen vorgeht, dazu Veranlassung gibt, aber weil man eben alte Denkgewohnheiten hat -, gewöhnlich glauben auch die Anthroposophen: wenn der Mensch aufwacht, gehen halt sein astralischer Leib und die Ich-Organisation über in den physischen und ätherischen Leib, verbinden sich so, wie sich Wasserstoff und Sauerstoff verbinden. So ist es nicht. Wenn man die Sache hellseherisch anschaut, so ist es so (siehe Tafel 4): wenn man hier den physischen Leib, hier den ätherischen Leib hat, so kommt der astralische Leib allerdings hinein und auch die Ich-Organisation kommt hinein; das kommt alles hinein und man sieht diesen Übergang. Aber dieser Übergang, der also darin besteht, daß der astralische Leib und die Ich-Organisation den physischen und AÄtherleib ergreifen, das ist nicht alles. Und hier beginnt eben, möchte ich sagen, eine Tatsache des menschlichen Lebens, die von außerordentlicher Wichtigkeit ist.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":226,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/317/1924-06-27/p006"},{"locus":"GA 317/1924-06-27/p007","passage_number":7,"text":"Gehen wir zunächst zur Ich-Organisation. Die Ich-Organisation ergreift nicht bloß den ätherischen und den physischen Leib, wenn sie zurückgeht beim Aufwachen, sondern sie ergreift im menschlichen Leibe die äußere Welt, die Kräfte der äußeren Welt. Was heißt das? Nun stellen Sie sich vor, wir haben die Schwerkraft, die so wirkt (siehe Tafel 4). Innerhalb der Richtung der Schwerkraft stehen wir ja auf recht, wenn wir wachen. Stellen Sie sich einfach die Schwerkraft als solche vor, die da wirkt, also die Richtung der Gewichtskräfte. Nun gibt es zwei Vorstellungen; machen wir uns das recht klar: die eine könnte darin bestehen, daß das Ich - sehen wir zunächst vom ätherischen Leibe ab — den physischen Leib ergreift, der physische Leib fügt sich dann der Schwerkraft, nicht wahr, wir stellen uns in die Schwerkraft hinein, wenn wir gehen, wir müssen das Gleichgewicht aufsuchen und so weiter. Das wäre die eine Vorstellung: wir ergreifen im Aufwachen mit dem Ich den physischen Leib; der physische Leib, der ist schwer und unterliegt dem Gewichte der Erde, und jetzt unterliegen wir mit unserem physischen Leib dem Gewichte der Erde und haben dadurch mittelbar eine Beziehung zur physischen Schwerkraft. Das ist die eine Möglichkeit. Es ist gerade so, wie wenn ich mit dem Gewichte des Buches eine mittelbare Beziehung zur Schwerkraft habe, indem ich das Buch ergreife. Das ist die eine Vorstellung; die ist falsch, unrichtig. Die andere Vorstellung ist diese: das Ich schlüpft hinein in den physischen Leib, ergreift den physischen Leib, aber schlüpft so weit hinein, daß es den physischen Leib unschwer macht; der physische Leib verliert, indem das Ich hineinschlüpft, seine Schwerkraft. Wenn ich also als wacher Mensch aufrecht stehe, so ist für mein Bewußtsein, für das Ich selbst, für die Ich-Organisation, die auch im Wärmeorganismus ihren physischen Ausdruck hat, die Schwerkraft überwunden. Es ist keine Möglichkeit vorhanden, in mittelbare Beziehung zur Schwerkraft zu treten. Das Ich tritt in unmittelbare Beziehung, stellt sich als Ich in die Schwerkraft hinein, schaltet also den physischen Leib aus. Das ist dasjenige, um was es sich handelt. Sie stellen sich fortwährend in die wirkliche Schwerkraft der Erde hinein mit der Ich-Organisation, wenn Sie gehen, nicht auf dem Umwege durch den physischen Leib, Sie treten in unmittelbare Beziehung zu dem Tellurischen.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":371,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/317/1924-06-27/p007"},{"locus":"GA 317/1924-06-27/p008","passage_number":8,"text":"Ebenso ist es mit dem Ätherleib. Auch der Ätherleib ist in Kräfte eingeschaltet. Nehmen wir eine von diesen Kräften. Ich habe oft darauf aufmerksam gemacht, wir unterliegen, indem wir als Mensch auf der Erde herumgehen, einem sehr starken Auftrieb. Wir haben unser Gehirn; das ist durchschnittlich 1500 Gramm schwer. Wenn diese Schwere von 1500 Gramm auf die Basis unseres Gehirns mit den feinen Adern drücken würde, würden diese sofort zerquetscht werden. Es drückt eben nicht, es schwimmt in Wahrheit in dem Gehirnwasser. Dadurch erleidet es einen Auftrieb, es verliert soviel von seinem Gewicht, als die verdrängte Wassermasse Gewicht hat. Diese verdrängte Wassermasse hat ein Gewicht, das ungefähr 20 Gramm weniger ist als das Gewicht des Gehirns selbst, so daß das Gehirn nur mit einem Gewichte von 20 Gramm auf seine Unterlage drückt. Wir haben also ein schweres Gehirn, das aber nicht hinuntergedrückt wird, sondern einen Auftrieb hat. In diesem Auftrieb leben wir darinnen, unser Ätherleib lebt darinnen. Aber indem wir hineinschlüpfen mit unserer Ich-Organisation in unseren Ätherleib, stehen wir nicht mittelbar in dem Auftrieb darinnen, sondern direkt mit der Ich-Organisation. Mit allen Kräften der Erde, mit der ganzen physischen Welt steht unsere menschliche Organisation in Beziehung, und zwar in direkter unmittelbarer Beziehung, nicht in indirekter Beziehung.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":206,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/317/1924-06-27/p008"},{"locus":"GA 317/1924-06-27/p009","passage_number":9,"text":"Nun, sehen Sie, womit steht da unsere Ich-Organisation in Beziehung? Da steht unsere Ich-Organisation erstens in Beziehung zur Schwerkraft, das heißt zu dem Irdischen. Denn, meine lieben Freunde, das, was die Physiker Materie nennen, das gibt es ja nicht. In Wirklichkeit existieren nur Kräfte, und die Kräfte sind durchaus ähnlich wie zum Beispiel die Schwerkraft — es gibt natürlich noch andere Kräfte, gewisse elektrische Kräfte, magnetische Kräfte -, mit allen steht die Ich-Organisation in unmittelbarer Beziehung und ist während des ganzen Wachzustandes im normalen Menschen darinnen. Wir können sagen, alles dasjenige, was wir unter Erde umfassen, das sind diese Kräfte. Alles dasjenige, was wir unter Wasser umfassen, was im Gleichgewichtszustande ist, mit dem steht die Ich-Organisation in unmittelbarer Verbindung. Alles, was luftförmig ist - nicht wahr, wir müssen in der Physik neben der gewöhnlichen Mechanik auch eine Hydromechanik, eine Aeromechanik lernen, weil die Gleichgewichtsprozesse und meteorologischen Prozesse in der Luft ihre besondere Formung haben -, mit dem steht die Ich-Organisation in unmittelbarer Verbindung. Dann steht die Ich-Organisation noch in Verbindung mit einem Teile des allgemeinen Wärmezustandes, mit einem Teile der allgemeinen Wärmekräfte, durch den wir immer durchgehen, wenn wir in der","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":191,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/317/1924-06-27/p009"},{"locus":"GA 317/1924-06-27/p010","passage_number":10,"text":"physischen Welt leben. (Siehe Tafel 5):","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":6,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/317/1924-06-27/p010"},{"locus":"GA 317/1924-06-27/p011","passage_number":11,"text":"Ich-Organisation: Erde  \nWasser  \nLuft  \nWärme  \nAstralleib: Wärme  \nLicht  \nChemismus  \nLebensäther","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":10,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/317/1924-06-27/p011"},{"locus":"GA 317/1924-06-27/p012","passage_number":12,"text":"Ich durchstreiche «Wärme», weil es nur ein Teil ist. - Wir wachen auf und stellen uns als Geist mit unserer Ich-Organisation in die Welt der irdischen Kräfte hinein. Unsere Beziehung ist in Wirklichkeit nicht eine physisch vermittelte, sondern eine magische. Nur daß diese nur räumlich ausgeübt werden kann, rein räumlich begrenzt durch die Grenzen unseres Organismus. Wenn Sie anfangen zu begreifen, daß die Beziehung unserer Ich-Organisation nicht eine physische, sondern eine magische ist, dann haben Sie sehr viel gewonnen.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":79,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/317/1924-06-27/p012"},{"locus":"GA 317/1924-06-27/p013","passage_number":13,"text":"Wenn wir jetzt zum Astralleib gehen: der Astralleib steht nun auch nicht etwa bloß durch den Ätherleib, sondern in unmittelbarer Beziehung zu gewissen Kräften, die auf uns wirken, wenn wir im Wachzustand sind. Nun, das ist wiederum ein Teil der Wärmekraft; die Wärme nämlich wirkt mit einem Teil auf den physischen Organismus und mit einem Teil auf den Ätherorganismus zurück. Dann ist der astralische Leib in unmittelbarer Beziehung zu den Lichtkräften. Aber da müssen Sie wissen, daß Lichtkräfte für Geisteswissenschaft etwas anderes sind als das, was die Physik heute darunter versteht. Wir wollen nicht auf Theorien eingehen, aber nicht wahr, dem, was die Welt rings um uns herum in Beleuchtung wahrnehmen kann, dem liegt natürlich etwas zugrunde, und zwar im Äther, so daß wir schon sagen können: Licht ist eine Ätherkraft. - Wir sprechen nun in der gewöhnlichen Wissenschaft heute von dem Licht, als in dem Beleuchteten enthalten. Geisteswissenschaft spricht so vom Licht: sie nennt Licht auch dasjenige, was andern Sinneswahrnehmungen zugrunde liegt, wie zum Beispiel das Licht der Tonwahrnehmungen. Wenn wir Tonwahrnehmungen haben, so ist die äußere Physik überhaupt nur versucht, als von dem äußeren Korrelat der Tonwahrnehmung, von der bewegten Luft zu reden. Die bewegte Luft ist nur das Medium des wirklichen Tonelementes. Das wirkliche Tonelement ist ein Ätherisches, und die Vibration der Luft ist nur die Wirkung dieses ätherischen Vibrierens. Licht lebt auch in der Geruchswahrnehmung. Kurz, für alle Wahrnehmungen liegt zugrunde ein viel Allgemeineres als Licht, als was man in der Physik heute Licht nennt. Es ist gewiß irreführend, das gebe ich Ihnen zu, daß so vom Licht gesprochen wird. Denn im Grunde genommen hat man so vom Lichte gesprochen in der alten Geisteswissenschaft bis zum 12., 13. nachchristlichen Jahrhundert. Dann hat sich das Verständnis dafür verloren, und man hat versucht, andere Ausdrücke anzuwenden, die aber noch unverständlicher sind. Deshalb sind die Bücher über Alchimie, die auf das 12. Jahrhundert folgen, so unverständlich. Für Sie ist von Bedeutung, daß man dies Licht nennt. Mit diesem Licht nun steht der astralische Leib in Verbindung mit alldem, was den Sinneswahrnehmungen unterliegt auf der Erde, nicht auf dem Umweg durch den Ätherleib, sondern direkt in Beziehung. Das ist ganz besonders interessant. Draußen lebt das Licht im Äther, aber wir haben auch Ätherisches in uns. Das Licht wirkt auf den Ätherleib. Aber mit diesem Licht, das in uns ist, kommen wir beim Aufwachen nicht allein in Beziehung, sondern mit Umgehung dieses Lichtes gliedern wir uns in das äußerlich strömende Licht ein. Ebenso ist es auch mit dem äußern, durch die Welt wirkenden Chemismus. Auch in den Chemismus gliedern wir uns ein auf eine unmittelbare Art. Und das ist besonders wichtig, denn damit wird gesagt, daß der Mensch wachend in eine Art kosmischen Chemismus eingegliedert ist. Nun kennt unsere heutige Wissenschaft nur den leblosen Chemismus, höchstens ein bißchen den organischen Chemismus, aber sie kennt gar nicht jenen Chemismus, der ein allgemeiner Weltenchemismus ist. In den gliedern wir uns ein, wenn wir aufwachen. Und ebenso gliedern wir uns ein in das allgemeine Weltenleben, in den Lebensäther; alles unmittelbar.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":506,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/317/1924-06-27/p013"},{"locus":"GA 317/1924-06-27/p014","passage_number":14,"text":"Und das, was ich Ihnen jetzt skizziert habe, das muß erreicht werden, wenn der Mensch so, wie ich es geschildert habe, nach und nach seinen zweiten Körper aus dem ersten aufbaut und auch den dritten aufbaut. Das alles muß erreicht werden, indem der Mensch in sich untertaucht, mit Durchdringung seines eigenen Wesens, in die irdischkosmischen Agenzien hinein. Er muß die Welt ergreifen können durch sich. Wir haben heute in unserer Wissenschaft noch eine solche Sache nur ganz klar auf einem einzigen Gebiet, wo in der Tat die Physik in ähnlicher Art vorgeht, wie man es auf vielen Gebieten wünschen könnte. Das ist die Augenorganisation.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":104,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/317/1924-06-27/p014"},{"locus":"GA 317/1924-06-27/p015","passage_number":15,"text":"Denken Sie, wenn man das Auge betrachtet, richtig wie ein knüppeldicker Physiker, wie eine physische Vorrichtung, ein physikalisches Instrument: man zeichnet ins Auge hinein genau dieselben Figuren, wenn man das Auge begreifen will, von Lichtbrechung durch die Linse, Bildung des objektiven Bildes und so weiter, nur daß man nicht übergehen kann zu der Art, wie das Seelische in das Physikalische eingreift. Aber das Ganze ist furchtbar interessant. Denn nun hat man, wenn man so physikalisch vorgeht, diese ganze Zeichnung da vor sich, und jetzt stockt man, jetzt will man durch das Gehirn hindurch an das Seelische heran. Schauen Sie sich einmal diese drolligen philosophischen Purzelbäume an, alle diese interessanten, aber in der Tat blitzzdummen Theorien vom psychophysischen Parallelismus oder von der Wechselwirkung. In Wahrheit kommen eben im Auge die Ich-Organisation und der astralische Leib unmittelbar an das, was wir physisch zeichnen, heran, ergreifen innerhalb des Auges das Physische. Für das Auge ist man also nahe daran, den richtigen Tatbestand zu ergreifen, weil man dazu genötigt ist durch diese eigentümliche Absonderung des Auges, weil das Auge fast nach außen liegt und in der embryonalen Entwickelung von außen eingebaut wird. Beim Auge macht man das. Das ist aber beim ganzen Menschen der Fall. Man müßte den ganzen Menschen innerlich physikalisch, geist-physikalisch erfassen, so daß man zu den irdischen Kräften auch die flüchtigen Lichtkräfte hinzufügen kann. Man müßte innerhalb der menschlichen Organisation dasjenige, was eigentlich aus der Umgebung heraus am Menschen da vorhanden ist und was vom Menschen so unmittelbar ergriffen wird, das physikalisch Konstruierte, das müßte man erkennen.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":256,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/317/1924-06-27/p015"},{"locus":"GA 317/1924-06-27/p016","passage_number":16,"text":"Wie kann nun aber die Sache in abnormen Zuständen liegen? Im abnormen Zustande kann tatsächlich irgend etwas, irgendein Organ es kann nicht der ganze Organismus sein — so liegen, daß der Mensch keine Möglichkeit hat, durch dieses Organ hindurch den Anschluß an die Außenwelt unmittelbar zu finden. Ein Organ kann sozusagen sich in den Weg stellen, so daß der Mensch durch dieses Organ nicht den Anschluß an die Außenwelt findet. Was muß dann eintreten? Nehmen Sie irgendein Organ (siehe Tafel 5, rechts), die Lunge meinetwegen, die Lunge stellt sich so hinein in den menschlichen Organismus, daß der Mensch, wenn er aufwacht, nicht den Anschluß an die Außenwelt findet. Nehmen Sie aber an, der Mensch schläft, und es tritt da während des Schlafes etwas in der Lunge auf, was die Lunge so organisiert, daß der Mensch, wenn er nun aufwachen würde, untertauchen würde in die Lunge, aber nicht in die Außenwelt heraus könnte. Dann ist sein Ich und astralischer Leib für die Lungenorganisation genötigt, sich in die Lunge hineinzupressen, aber sie können nicht wieder herauskommen. Denn die Sache muß so sein, daß der Mensch mit seinem Astralleib untertaucht, aber wieder heraus kann nach allen Seiten in die Welt hinein. Die Lunge muß bloß den Übergang darstellen können. Nun liefert sie den Übergang nicht, sondern hält Astralleib und Ich fest, das heißt, würde sie festhalten, wenn der Mensch aufwachen würde. Das Unglück ist, daß er unter solchen Umständen auf jeden Fall aufwacht, weil dasjenige, was in die Lunge eintritt, durch den besonderen Chemismus eine Infiltration irgendeines Stoffes in feiner Verteilung ist. Die so verlegte Organisation füllt irgendein feiner Stoff aus, der besondere Affinität zur Lunge hat. Dann ist die Lunge unregelmäßig, und der Mensch wacht infolgedessen auf. Aber wie? Er wacht auf, aber ohne daß er das Bewußtsein kriegt. Daß man das Bewußtsein kriegt, dazu ist es notwendig, daß man herauskommt. Man bekommt das Bewußtsein, wenn man durchgedrungen ist. Wenn man bloß hineingekommen ist, wacht man auf; wenn man durchdringt, bekommt man das Bewußtsein. Man bleibt darin stehen, man bleibt darin stecken, und es setzt sich der Schlaf, der gesunde Bewußtseinslosigkeit ist, in die kranke Bewußtseinslosigkeit fort, das heißt, der Mensch wacht zwar auf, kriegt aber nicht das Bewußtsein.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":367,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/317/1924-06-27/p016"},{"locus":"GA 317/1924-06-27/p017","passage_number":17,"text":"Sie sehen, man schildert nach der einen Seite genau aus dem Innern heraus den Zustand des Epileptikers. Die Epilepsie ist so, und ist insbesondere im kindlichen Alter so, wie ich es geschildert habe. So daß also gesagt werden muß: Was liegt bei einem Epileptiker eigentlich vor? — Bei einem Epileptiker liegt das vor, daß er mit seiner Ich-Organisation und seinem astralischen Leib zwar in den physischen und Ätherleib untertauchen kann, daß er aber auf der andern Seite nicht herauskommt in die physische Welt, daß er darinnen festgehalten wird. Nun denken Sie sich doch, wie ist es denn da eigentlich, wenn nun da der astralische Leib hineingeht, sagen wir in die Lunge, da drinnen festgehalten wird, da nicht wieder heraus kann? So wird er ja an der Oberfläche der Lunge gepreßt. Der astralische Leib und die Ich-Organisation werden da gepreßt, stauen sich da. Sehen Sie, deshalb entsteht in einem solchen Falle unter der Oberfläche der Organe eine Stauung der Ich-Organisation und des astralischen Leibes. Das tritt in der Außenwelt als Krampf auf. Das sind Krämpfe. Jedesmal, wenn Krampf auftritt, findet eine innere Stauung an der Oberfläche irgendeines Organs statt. Diese Stauungen sind ja vorzugsweise in den Gehirnpartien vorhanden — und wir wissen ja, wie sich die Gehirnpartien zu den andern verhalten -, können aber durchaus darin bestehen, daß sich in Leber oder Lunge etwas staut und die Gehirnstauung nur eine Projektion, ein schwächeres Abbild ist. Jedesmal, wenn ein Krampf vorliegt, bemerkt man diese Stauung der Ich-Organisation und des astralischen Leibes innerhalb eines Organs. Und dann ist man erst auf der wahren Ursache der epileptischen Krämpfe, für die man sonst nichts hat als die äußere Deskriptive. Man kann nicht diesen Zustand wirklich kennenlernen, wenn man nicht in der Lage ist, von physischem und AÄtherleib aufzurücken zu Ich und astralischem Leib. Sonst hat man keinen Inhalt, wenn man von Krämpfen spricht, wenn man nicht weiß, daß da an der Oberfläche Astralleib und Ich-Organisation furchtbar zusammengeschoppt sind. Sie können nicht heraus, drängen dann nach außen und werden zurückgehalten.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":334,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/317/1924-06-27/p017"}],"beads":[{"from":[4,5],"to":[4,5],"confidence":"medium"},{"from":[6],"to":[6],"confidence":"medium"},{"from":[7],"to":[7],"confidence":"medium"},{"from":[8],"to":[8],"confidence":"medium"},{"from":[9],"to":[9,10],"confidence":"medium"},{"from":[10],"to":[11,12],"confidence":"medium"},{"from":[11],"to":[13],"confidence":"medium"},{"from":[12,13],"to":[14,15],"confidence":"medium"},{"from":[14],"to":[16],"confidence":"medium"},{"from":[15],"to":[17],"confidence":"medium"}],"note":"Paired by the paragraph aligner; each language numbers its own paragraphs. A bead at either end of the span can carry text beyond it (the `from` numbers show what each bead covers)."}}