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And you may encounter such people in all variations in the most manifold circumstances of life. You may meet them in your vocation as physician or as priest—or the whole congregation may encounter them. You can find them in endless variety, for instance, in a town. Today the physician who finds such a person in an early stage of life makes the diagnosis: psychopathological impairment. To modern physicians that person is a psychopathological impairment case who is at the borderline between health and illness; whose nervous system, for instance, can be considered to be on a pathological level. Priests, if they are well-schooled (let us say a Benedictine or Jesuit or Barnabite or the like; ordinary parish priests are sometimes not so well-schooled), will know from their esoteric background that the things such a person tells them can, if properly interpreted, give genuine revelations from the spiritual world, just as one can have from a really insane person. But the insane person is not able to interpret them; only someone who comprehends the whole situation can do so. Thus you can encounter such a person if you are a physician, and we will see how to regard this person medically from an anthroposophical point of view. Thus you can also encounter such a person if you are a priest—and even the entire congregation can have such an encounter.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":241,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/318/1924-09-09/p013","german_anchor":{"de_prefix":"1924-09-09","de_passages":[{"locus":"GA 318/1924-09-09/p012","url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/318/1924-09-09/p012"}],"bead_confidence":"medium","length_check":{"de_words":308,"en_words":241,"ratio":0.78,"partial":false},"correspondence":"established","note":"English passage numbering is edition-relative, so the same number need not name the same paragraph in the German. 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The physical and etheric bodies still have their normal connection. But now there begins to be a stronger pull of the ego organization, drawing the astral body to itself, so that the ego organization and astral body are now more closely bound together. And neither of them enters properly into the physical and etheric bodies. (Plate I, 3) Then the following can take place: the person becomes unable to control the physical and etheric bodies properly from the astral body and ego. The person is unable to push the astral body and ego organization properly into the external senses, and therefore, every now and then, becomes “senseless.” Sense impressions in general fade away and the person falls into a kind of dizzy dream state. But then in the most varied way moral impulses can appear with special strength. 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They will find, although they may take slight notice of them, great abnormalities in the ductless glands and their hormone secretion, in the adrenal glands, and the glands that are hidden in the neck as small glands within the thyroid gland. In such a case there are changes particularly in the pituitary gland and the pineal gland. These are more generally recognized than are the changes in the nervous system and in the general area of the senses.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":101,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/318/1924-09-09/p015","german_anchor":{"de_prefix":"1924-09-09","de_passages":[{"locus":"GA 318/1924-09-09/p014","url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/318/1924-09-09/p014"}],"bead_confidence":"medium","length_check":{"de_words":102,"en_words":101,"ratio":0.99,"partial":false},"correspondence":"established","note":"English passage numbering is edition-relative, so the same number need not name the same paragraph in the German. 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The person confesses to experiencing an especially strong feeling of sin, stronger than people normally have. The priest can learn very much from such individuals, and Catholic priests do. They learn what an extreme consciousness of sin can be like, something that is so weakly developed in most human beings. Also in such a person the love of one's neighbor can become tremendously intense, so much so that the person can get into great trouble because of it, which will then be confessed to the priest.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":97,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/318/1924-09-09/p016","german_anchor":{"de_prefix":"1924-09-09","de_passages":[{"locus":"GA 318/1924-09-09/p015","url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/318/1924-09-09/p015"}],"bead_confidence":"medium","length_check":{"de_words":96,"en_words":97,"ratio":1.01,"partial":false},"correspondence":"established","note":"English passage numbering is edition-relative, so the same number need not name the same paragraph in the German. 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The physical body can remain comparatively isolated because the etheric body—from time to time or even permanently—does not entirely penetrate it, so that now the astral and etheric bodies and the ego organization are closely united with one another and the physical organism is separate from them. (Plate II) To use the current materialistic terms (which we are going to outgrow as the present course of study progresses), such people are in most cases said to be severely mentally retarded individuals. They are unable from their soul-spiritual individuality to control their physical limbs in any direction, not even in the direction of their own will. Such people pull their physical organism along, as it were, after themselves. A person who is in this condition in early childhood, from birth, is also diagnosed as mentally retarded. In the present stage of earth evolution, when all three members—ego organization, astral organization, and etheric body—are separated from the physical, and the lone physical body is dragged along after them, the person cannot perceive, cannot be active, cannot be illumined by the ego organization, astral body, and etheric body. So experiences are dim and the person goes about in a physical body as if it were anesthetized. This is extreme mental retardation, and one has to think how at this stage one can bring the other bodies down into the physical organism. Here it can be a matter of educational measures, but also to a great extent of external therapeutic measures.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":253,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/318/1924-09-09/p017","german_anchor":{"de_prefix":"1924-09-09","de_passages":[{"locus":"GA 318/1924-09-09/p016","url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/318/1924-09-09/p016"}],"bead_confidence":"medium","length_check":{"de_words":446,"en_words":453,"ratio":1.02,"partial":false},"correspondence":"established","note":"English passage numbering is edition-relative, so the same number need not name the same paragraph in the German. 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Wir haben dann eine Unregelmäßigkeit, die uns zunächst in der wachen Organisation entgegentreten kann. Der Mensch kommt mit seiner Ich-Organisation nicht gut in seinen astralischen Leib hinein. Dadurch ist sein Empfindungsleben durchaus gestört. Er kann sogar sehr lebhaft Gedanken bilden, denn die Gedanken überhaupt hängen von dem normalen Zusammenhang des astralischen Leibes mit den anderen Leibern ab. Aber ob mit diesen Gedanken auch die Sinnesempfindungen in der entsprechenden Weise erfaßt werden, das hängt davon ab, daß die Ich-Organisation normal mit den anderen Gliedern der menschlichen Wesenheit verbunden ist. Ist das nicht der Fall, hängt sozusagen die Ich-Organisation nicht ordentlich mit den anderen Gliedern der menschlichen Wesenheit zusammen, dann werden die Sinnesempfindungen verblassen. In demselben Maße, in dem die Sinnesempfindungen verblassen, in demselben Maße werden die Gedanken intensiver. Fast gespenstisch treten sie auf, nicht so rein, wie wir sie sonst haben. Das Seelenleben eines solchen Menschen verfließt so, daß seine Sinnesempfindungen etwas Verschwindendes, Nebelhaftes haben, dafür aber die Gedanken etwas Lebendiges, Intensiviertes, Koloriertes haben, das fast den Eindruck schwacher Sinnesempfindungen hervorruft.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":215,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/318/1924-09-09/p010"},{"locus":"GA 318/1924-09-09/p011","passage_number":11,"text":"Schläft dann ein solcher Mensch, dann ist auch während des Schlafes die Sache so, daß die Ich-Organisation nicht ordentlich im astralischen Leib drinnen ist. Die Folge davon ist, daß jetzt außerordentlich starke Erlebnisse mit den Feinheiten der äußerlichen Welt auftreten. Solch ein Mensch erlebt in demjenigen Teile der Welt, wo er eben ist, mit seinem Ich und seinem astralischen Leib, wenn er außer dem physischen und ätherischen Leib ist, die Feinheiten der Pflanzen, die Feinheiten des Obstgartens um sein Haus herum. Nicht das, was man bei Tage sieht, sondern die Feinheiten des Geschmacks der Apfel und dergleichen. Das ist schon so, daß das erlebt wird. Und dazu verblaßte Gedanken, die im astralischen Leibe nachwirkende Kräfte darstellen, aus dem wachen Leben nachwirkende Kräfte darstellen.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":123,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/318/1924-09-09/p011"},{"locus":"GA 318/1924-09-09/p012","passage_number":12,"text":"Sehen Sie, es ist jetzt schwer, wenn man einen solchen Menschen vor sich hat, und man kann ihn in irgendeiner Variante in den mannigfaltigsten Lagen des Lebens vor sich haben, man kann ihn als Arzt vor sich haben, man kann ihn als Priester vor sich haben, sogar als ganze Kirche ihn vor sich haben. Er tritt einem in irgendeiner Form, meinetwegen in einem Dorfe entgegen. Der Arzt sagt heute, namentlich wenn er ihn in irgendeinem Frühstadium des Lebens findet: Psychopathologische Minderwertigkeit. - Der Priester, namentlich wenn er ein gutgeschulter, sagen wir ein gutgeschulter Benediktiner ist — die Weltpriester in der katholischen Kirche sind zuweilen nicht so gut geschult —, aber wenn er ein gutgeschulter Benediktiner, Jesuit oder Barnabit oder dergleichen ist, dann weiß er auf esoterische Art, daß man aus den Dingen, die da erzählt werden von einem solchen Menschen — für den modernen Arzt ist es eine psychopathologische Minderwertigkeit -—, daß man aus diesen Dingen, die da erzählt werden, wenn man sie richtig interpretiert - trotzdem man einen Menschen vor sich hat, der hart an der Grenze steht zwischen Gesundheit und Krankheit, dessen Nervensystem zum Beispiel durchaus in pathologischem Sinne aufgefaßt werden kann -, wenn man einen solchen Menschen mit durchaus labilem Gleichgewicht in den zutage tretenden Seelenkräften vor sich hat, die ganz anders wirken als beim sogenannt normalen Menschen, dann weiß man, daß einem doch aus diesen Dingen, wenn man sie richtig interpretiert, echte Offenbarungen aus der geistigen Welt entgegenkommen können, wie schließlich von dem Wahnsinnigen selber - nur ist der Wahnsinnige nicht berufen dazu, sie zu interpretieren, sondern nur derjenige, der die ganze Sache durchschaut. Man kann ihn also als Arzt vor sich haben, und wir werden sehen, wie wir ihn in einem anthroposophischen Sinne ärztlich anzuschauen haben. Man kann ihn als Priester vor sich haben, man kann ihn auch als Kirche vor sich haben.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":308,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/318/1924-09-09/p012"},{"locus":"GA 318/1924-09-09/p013","passage_number":13,"text":"Nun kann es aber sein, daß er sich sogar weiterentwickelt und dann kommt etwas ganz Besonderes heraus. Nehmen wir an, er entwickelt sich weiter, dieser Mensch. In einem gewissen Lebensalter ist er so, wie ich ihn gezeichnet habe. Nehmen wir an, er entwickelt sich weiter, es entsteht eine stärkere Anziehung des nicht ganz im normalen Verhältnis zu den anderen Gliedern stehenden Ichs, so daß später dieses zustande kommt (Tafel 2, rechts). Wieder ist der physische und ätherische Leib sozusagen normal in Verbindung, aber die Ich-Organisation zieht den astralischen Leib an sich, und der will jetzt auch nicht ganz drinnen sein. Jetzt ist die Ich-Organisation und der astralische Leib mehr aneinandergebunden und alle beide zusammen kommen nicht ordentlich in den physischen und den Ätherleib hinein. Bei einem solchen Menschen kann das Folgende eintreten. Wir gewahren an ihm, daß er nicht imstande ist, seinen physischen Leib und Ätherleib ordentlich zu beherrschen vom astralischen Leib und Ich aus. Er kann den Astralleib und die Ich-Organisation nicht richtig vorschieben in die äußeren Sinne. So daß alle Augenblicke ihn die Sinne verlassen, überhaupt die Sinnesempfindungen verblassen und er in eine Art Taumel-Traumzustand kommt. Aber es können dann in der mannigfaltigsten Weise gerade die moralischen Impulse mit einer besonderen Stärke auftreten. Sie können konfus auftreten, aber sie können auch in einer außerordentlich kasuistisch großartigen Weise auftreten, wenn die Organisation so ist.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":225,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/318/1924-09-09/p013"},{"locus":"GA 318/1924-09-09/p014","passage_number":14,"text":"Und wiederum findet der Arzt da in diesem Falle, daß eigentlich wesentliche organische Veränderungen schon da sind in der Konsistenz der Sinnesorgane und der Nervensubstanz. Die beachtet er weniger; aber namentlich wird er finden, daß starke Abnormitäten in den feineren Drüsen und in der Hormonbildung da sind, in denjenigen Drüsen, die wir als Nebennieren bezeichnen, und in den Drüsen, die hier am Halse als kleine Drüsen in der Schilddrüse versteckt sind. Namentlich sind in einem solchen Fall Veränderungen der Hypophysis cerebri und Epiphysis cerebri da. Das wird schon mehr beachtet als die Veränderungen, die im Nervensystem und im ganzen Sinnessystem vorhanden sind.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":102,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/318/1924-09-09/p014"},{"locus":"GA 318/1924-09-09/p015","passage_number":15,"text":"Der Priester kommt an einen solchen Menschen heran; dieser Mensch erzählt ihm von dem, was er unter einer solchen Konstitution erlebt. Er erlebt unter einer solchen Konstitution etwa ein besonders starkes Sündengefühl, ein verstärktes Sündengefühl, als sonst Menschen haben. Der Priester kann Mannigfaltiges lernen, und katholische Priester tun das. Sie lernen gerade von solchen Menschen die extreme Ausbildung dieses bei den anderen schwach entwickelten Sündengefühls. Die Nächstenliebe kann bei einem solchen Menschen bis zu ungeheurer Intensität anwachsen, so daß ein solcher Mensch gerade durch seine Nächstenliebe in mannigfaltige Nöte kommt, die er dem Priester dann beichtet.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":96,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/318/1924-09-09/p015"},{"locus":"GA 318/1924-09-09/p016","passage_number":16,"text":"Aber es kann noch weitergehen. Es kann jetzt dazu kommen, daß der physische Leib verhältnismäßig vereinsamt bleibt, daß der Ätherleib dauernd oder zeitweise nicht ganz hineingeht in den physischen Leib, daß dann der astralische Leib, der Ätherleib und die Ich-Organisation nahe miteinander verbunden sind und die physische Organisation draußen ist (Tafel 3). Man wird, wenn man sich heutiger materialistischer Ausdrücke bedient — aber wir werden aus diesen herauswachsen im Laufe der Stunde -, einen solchen Menschen in den häufigsten Fällen empfinden als einen hochgradig schwachsinnigen Menschen, der nach keiner Richtung hin, auch nicht nach der Willensrichtung vom Geistig-Seelischen aus, seine physischen Glieder beherrschen kann. Solch ein Mensch zieht gewissermaßen die physische Organisation nach. Ist von vornherein der Mensch so organisiert, dann empfindet man ihn auch wirklich als schwachsinnig, weil der Mensch im gegenwärtigen Stadium der Erdentwickelung, wenn das alles, die Ich-Organisation, die astralische Organisation und der Ätherleib, so isoliert ist, und einsam der physische Leib nachgeschleppt wird, dann nicht wahrnehmen kann, nicht tätig sein kann, sich nicht erleuchten kann an Ich-Organisation, astralischem Leib und Ätherleib; so bleibt das dunkel, was er erlebt, und er geht wie betäubt in seinem physischen Leib herum. Es ist in hohem Grade Schwachsinn vorhanden, und man muß nachdenken, in diesem Stadium, wie man in die physische Organisation die anderen Leiber hineinbringen kann. Da kann es sich um pädagogische Maßregeln, aber auch durchaus um äußerlich therapeutische Maßnahmen handeln. Der Priester aber kann in den Fall kommen, daß er ganz überrascht sein kann von dem, was ihm gerade ein solcher Mensch beichtet. Der Priester kann sich sehr gescheit fühlen, aber durchgebildete Priester — es gibt solche wirklich im Katholizismus; man muß den Katholizismus nicht kleinlich beurteilen -, die passen schon auf, wenn ein solcher sogenannter Kranker zu ihnen kommt und zu ihnen sagt: Was du von der Kanzel verkündest, es will doch nicht viel besagen. Das alles macht nichts aus, das reicht eigentlich nicht bis zur Wohnung Gottes, das hat alles nur äußerlichen Wert. In Gott muß man wirklich mit seinem ganzen Menschen ruhen. — Das sagen solche Leute. In allem übrigen Leben benehmen sie sich so, daß man sie für hochgradig schwachsinnig halten kann, in der Unterredung mit den Priestern kommen sie zuweilen mit solchen Dingen. Sie prätendieren, das innere religiöse Leben intimer zu kennen als die, die berufsmäßig davon reden. Sie haben eine Verachtung für den, der berufsmäßig davon redet und sie nennen das, was sie erleben, die «Ruhe in Gott». Und sehen Sie, wieder muß es sich für den Priester darum handeln, Mittel und Wege zu finden, anzuknüpfen an dasjenige, was eigentlich ein solcher, man kann sagen Patient, man kann aber auch anders sagen, was ein solcher Mensch innerlich erlebt.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":446,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/318/1924-09-09/p016"}],"beads":[{"from":[11],"to":[10],"confidence":"medium"},{"from":[12],"to":[11],"confidence":"medium"},{"from":[13],"to":[12],"confidence":"medium"},{"from":[14],"to":[13],"confidence":"medium"},{"from":[15],"to":[14],"confidence":"medium"},{"from":[16],"to":[15],"confidence":"medium"},{"from":[17,18,19],"to":[16],"confidence":"medium"}],"note":"Paired by the paragraph aligner; each language numbers its own paragraphs. A bead at either end of the span can carry text beyond it (the `from` numbers show what each bead covers)."}}