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If I want to understand the forces of growth in the child, if I want to know how there is something particularly vitalizing in it, then I have to do it in what I call imaginative knowledge, because that makes it an inner content of consciousness. If, for example, the forces that are growth forces in the child later pass over into the life of the soul, but then work passively, and if there are healing powers in these growth forces, then I can only explore these healing powers if I now, in turn, come to look at and inwardly experience what the vitalizing forces are, using the actual spiritual scientific method. This makes it possible to see in these things not mere fantasy but something that is active in the human organism, and thus to make outer anthropology a real anthroposophy through inner empiricism.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"Fifth Lecture","site_heading":"The Fourfold Human Being and Spiritual Diagnosis","site_heading_note":"A heading the site wrote for this unit from a summary of it; not in the edition, and not the words of Rudolf Steiner or of the translator. 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Also es handelt sich nicht bei der anthroposophischen Forschungsmethode darum, daß man nun schwefelt von einem ausgedachten ätherischen Leib, sondern darum, daß man in der Tat - ich kann hier nur Andeutungen geben — überall empirisch hinweisen kann, wie das, was man nun durch die besonderen Erkenntnismethoden findet, real tätig ist in der menschlichen Natur; denn wenn wir ein Kind anschauen, so wirkt ja das, was wir später im Gedanken finden. Will ich also beim Kinde die Wachstumskräfte begreifen, will ich wissen, wie da besonders Vitalisierendes drinnen ist, so habe ich es in dem, was ich imaginative Erkenntnis nenne, denn die macht es zum inneren Bewußstseinsinhalt. Liegen also etwa in den Kräften, die beim Kinde Wachstumskräfte sind, später in das seelische Leben übergehen, dann aber passiv wirken, liegen in diesen Wachstumskräften Heilkräfte, so kann ich diese Heilkräfte nur erforschen, wenn ich nun wiederum dazu komme, mit der eigentlichen geisteswissenschaftlichen Methode das anzuschauen und innerlich zu erleben, was die vitalisierenden Kräfte sind. Das gibt die Möglichkeit, in der Tat nicht bloß etwas Phantastisches in den Dingen zu sehen, die man sich da erobert, sondern etwas, was im menschlichen Organismus wirksam ist, und damit die äußere Anthropologie durch innere Empirie zu einer wirklichen Anthroposophie zu machen.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":307,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/319/1923-11-15/p016"}],"english":["GA 319/1923-11-15/p017"],"method":"length","confidence":"high","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":307,"en_words":293,"ratio":0.95,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"proposed","verified":false},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":1.05,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":8290,"original_word_count":7932,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"SOL2024","book_title":"Anthroposophical Medical Theory and Human Knowledge","publisher":"Steiner Online Library","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA319/English/SOL2024/19231115m01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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