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What he beholds spread out in space and going on in time is for him one, a single undivided whole. He does not face it with the question, subjective or objective? His use of scientific thinking and scientific method is not to draw conclusions from the known to the unknown; he will apply all thinking and all available methods to put the phenomena themselves together till in the last resort he gets the kind of phenomena which he calls archetypal,—the Ur-phenomena. These archetypal phenomena—once more, regardless of “subjective or objective”—bring to expression what Goethe feels is fundamental to a true outlook upon Nature and the World. 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Er geht gar nicht in seiner Naturforschung von dem sogenannten Bekannten in das sogenannte Unbekannte hinein, sondern er will immer in dem Bekannten stehen bleiben, ohne dass er sich zunächst darum bekümmert, ob das Bekannte bloß subjektiv ist, also eine Wirkung auf unsere Sinne oder auf unsere Nerven oder auf unsere Seele, oder ob es objektiv ist. Solche Begriffe, wie die der subjektiven Farbenerscheinungen und der objektiven Wellenbewegungen draußen im Raums, solche bildet sich Goethe gar nicht, sondern ihm ist dasjenige, was er ausgebreitet im Raum, was er vorgehend in der Zeit sieht, ein durchaus Einheitliches, bei dem er sich nicht nach Subjektivität und Objektivität fragt. Er verwendet gar nicht jenes Denken und jene Methoden, die in der Naturwissenschaft angewendet werden, dazu, um von dem Bekannten auf das Unbekannte zu schließen, sondern er verwendet alles Denken, alle Methoden dazu, die Phänomene, die Erscheinungen selbst so zusammenzustellen, dass man durch diese Zusammenstellung der Phänomene, der Erscheinungen, zuletzt solche Erscheinungen bekommt, die er Urphänomene nennt, die nun wiederum, ohne dass man Rücksicht nimmt auf subjektiv und objektiv, das aussprechen, was er zur Grundlage seiner Welt- und Naturbetrachtung machen will. 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