{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 322/1920-10-03_02/p006","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"The strange thing is that most Western philosophers totally deny the reality of the very thing that my *Philosophy of Freedom* seeks to awaken as something real in the soul of the reader. Countless philosophers have expounded the view that pure thinking does not exist but is bound to contain traces, however diluted, of sense perception. A strong impression is left that philosophers who maintain this have never really studied mathematics or gone into the difference between analytical and empirical mechanics. Specialization, however, has already grown to such an extent that nowadays philosophy is often pursued by people totally lacking any knowledge of mathematical thinking. The pursuit of philosophy is actually impossible without a grasp of at least the spirit of mathematical thinking. We have seen what Goethe's attitude was toward this spirit of mathematical thinking, even though he made no claim himself to any special training in mathematics. Many thus would deny the existence of the very faculty I would like those who study *The Philosophy of Freedom* to acquire.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"Lecture VIII","site_heading":"Western Spiritual Science: Imagination, Inspiration, and Intuition","site_heading_note":"A heading the site wrote for this unit from a summary of it; not in the edition, and not the words of Rudolf Steiner or of the translator. 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Allein es ist ja schon durch unseren Spezialismus einmal so weit gekommen, daß man heute oftmals philosophiert, ohne überhaupt die Spur von einer Erkenntnis des mathematischen Denkens zu haben. Im Grunde genommen kann man nicht philosophieren, ohne wenigstens den Geist des mathematischen Denkens erfaßt zu haben. Wir haben gesehen, wie Goethe gegenüber diesem Geiste des mathematischen Denkens sich verhielt, wenn er auch selber sagte, daß er sich keine besondere, speziell-mathematische Kultur zuschreiben könne. 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