{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 326/1922-12-27/p006","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"Take a concrete example, the first phenomenon that confronts us after the birth of scientific thinking, the Copernican system. It is not my intention today or in any of these lectures to defend either the Ptolemaic or the Copernican system. I am not advocating either one. I am only speaking of the historical fact that the Copernican system has replaced the Ptolemaic. What I say today does not imply that I favor the old Ptolemaic system over the Copernican. But this must be said as a matter of history. Imagine yourself back in the age when man experienced his own orientation in space: above-below, right-left, front-back. He could experience this only in connection with the earth. He could, for example, experience the vertical orientation in himself only in relation to the direction of gravity. He experienced the other two in connection with the four compass points according to which the earth itself is oriented. All this he experienced *together* with the earth as he felt himself standing firmly on it. He thought of himself not just as a being that begins with the head and ends a the sole of the feet. Rather, he felt himself penetrated by the force of gravity, which had something to do with his being but did not cease at the soles of his feet. Hence, feeling himself within the nature of the gravitational force, man felt himself one with the earth. For his concrete experience, the starting point of his cosmology was thus given by the earth. Therefore he felt he Ptolemaic system to be justified.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"Lecture IV","site_heading":"Mathematics Severed from Human Experience: The Birth of Modern Science","site_heading_note":"A heading the site wrote for this unit from a summary of it; not in the edition, and not the words of Rudolf Steiner or of the translator. 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Es sollte also niemand etwa aus demjenigen, was ich heute zu sagen habe, schließen, daß ich für das alte ptolemäische System eintreten wollte gegen das kopernikanische. Aber in bezug auf das geschichtliche Werden ist folgendes zu sagen. Man versetze sich zurück in diejenige Zeit, in welcher der Mensch seine eigene Orientierung im Raum, das Oben-Unten, Rechts-Links, Vorne-Hinten, erlebte. Er konnte sie nur erleben im Zusammenhange mit der Erde. Er konnte zum Beispiel das Oben und Unten an sich selber nur erleben im Zusammenhange mit der Schwerkraftrichtung. Und er erlebte das Rechts-Links, das Vorne-Hinten im Zusammenhange mit den Weltgegenden, nach denen ja die Erde selber orientiert ist. Aber er erlebte auch diese Orientierung mit der Erde zusammen, indem er sich fest auf der Erde stehend fühlte. Das heißt, der Mensch war sich nicht nur für seine Gedanken irgend etwas, was bei seinem Kopfe anfängt und bei seinen Fußsohlen aufhört, sondern der Mensch erlebte sich vielmehr als etwas, durch das die Schwerkraft geht, die mit seinem Wesen etwas zu tun hat, die aber nicht bei den Schuhsohlen aufhört, so daß er, indem er sich in dem Schwerkraftwesen drinnen fühlte, sich als zusammengehörig mit der Erde empfand. Dadurch war für sein konkretes Erleben der Ausgangspunkt seiner ganzen kosmischen Betrachtung durch die Erde gegeben. Damit war aber für ihn die Konstruktion des ptolemäischen Weltsystems berechtigt. In dem Augenblicke, wo der Mensch die mathematische Konstruktion von sich selber loslöste, da war erst die Möglichkeit gegeben, sie auch von der Erde loszulösen und ein astronomisches System zu begründen, das seinen Mittelpunkt in der Sonne hat. Der Mensch mußte erst das ältere In-sich-Erleben verlieren, um außerhalb des Irdischen den Mittelpunkt eines Systems anzunehmen. Es hängt also das Heraufkommen des kopernikanischen Systems auf das innigste zusammen mit der ganzen Umwandlung in der Seelenstimmung der zivilisierten Menschheit. Es kann gar nicht die Entstehung des modernen naturwissenschaftlichen Denkens herausgerissen werden aus der übrigen Gemüts- und Seelenverfassung der Menschen, sondern muß im Zusammenhange damit betrachtet werden.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":411,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/326/1922-12-27/p006"}],"english":["GA 326/1922-12-27/p006","GA 326/1922-12-27/p007"],"method":"length","confidence":"medium","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":411,"en_words":355,"ratio":0.86,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"proposed","verified":false},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":1.05,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":6036,"original_word_count":5743,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Maria St. Goar","identified_edition":"AP1985","book_title":"The Origins of Natural Science","publisher":"Anthroposophic Press","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA326/English/AP1985/19221227p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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