{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 330/1919-04-28/p011","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"We can only come to an understanding of this fact if we have not merely learned to think about the proletariat from above, as so many do today, but if our fate has led us to think with the proletariat! You see, what one has learned to think and feel in the age of technology, in the age of capitalism, has certainly led many members of the leading, guiding circles of humanity to become free-thinking, free-religious. In this respect, unfortunately, unfortunately, modern humanity lived in a terrible illusion that must be seen through today. Yes, one could be a naturalist like Carl Vogt, one could be a popularizer of natural science like Büchner, one could be completely devoted to natural thought with one's head, but the whole person can still be part of a social order that makes it impossible for him to feel committed to the newer ways of thinking with more than just his head. It was different for the proletariat. I would like to mention a scene that could be multiplied not a hundredfold, but a thousandfold. A scene of the kind that has taken place with momentous consequences and that the leading classes have so far failed to recognize in all its world-historical significance. You see, I remember it vividly because I was standing next to it twenty years ago when Rosa Luxemburg spoke in Spandau near Berlin at a proletarian assembly in her peculiar, measured, deliberate manner. She spoke about science and the workers, one of those speeches whose fruits are now ripening all over the world. I will only use a few words to hint at the most important points of this speech. Rosa Luxemburg spoke to the workers, who had gathered on Sunday afternoon with their wives and even with their children, with complete awareness of modern scientific orientation, to hear something about the question: How does a person, as a worker, achieve a dignified existence? or: How should he think about his existence as a human being? At the time, she said: For a long, long time, humanity has lived in illusions about the ancient times. Now, at last, through its science, humanity has come to realize that all people are descended from the same animals. In the beginning, as she said, almost in her own words, man behaved most indecently as a tree-climber. Then she added: “Can anyone still believe that with such an equal origin for all people, there is any justification for the social inequalities that exist today?”","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"IV. The Key Points of the Social Question in the Necessities of Life In the Present and the Future","site_heading":null,"date":"1919-04-28","location":null,"word_count":419,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/330/1919-04-28/p011","alignment_confidence":"high","alignment_reason":"beads:identity","two_voice_volume":false,"translation_credit":{"scope":"unit","status":"established","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"SOL2024","book_title":"The Reorganization of the Social Organism","publisher":"Steiner Online Library","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA330/English/SOL2024/19190428p02.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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Ja, man konnte ein solcher Naturforscher wie Carl Vogt sein, man konnte ein naturwissenschaftlicher Popularisator wie Büchner sein, man kann ganz aufrichtig und ehrlich mit dem Kopfe dem Naturgedanken ergeben sein, aber der ganze Mensch, er kann doch in einer sozialen Ordnung drinnenstehen, die es ihm unmöglich macht, mit mehr als mit dem Kopfe sich empfindend zu bekennen zu den neueren Denkgewohnheiten. Anders war das beim Proletariat. Ich möchte eine Szene erwähnen, die nicht verhundertfacht, die vertausendfacht werden könnte. Eine Szene von der Art, wie sie sich als folgenschwer zugetragen haben und die in ihrer ganzen weltgeschichtlichen Bedeutung zu erkennen die führenden Klassen bisher doch versäumt haben. Sehen Sie, ich erinnere mich lebhaft, weil ich daneben stand, als vor jetzt zwanzig Jahren einmal Rosa Luxemburg in Spandau bei Berlin sprach zu einer Proletarierversammlung in ihrer eigentümlichen, gemessenen, überlegten Art. Sie sprach über die Wissenschaft und die Arbeiter, eine von jenen Reden, deren Früchte jetzt in der ganzen Welt aufgehen. Nur mit wenig Worten will ich Ihnen das Wesentlichste dieser Rede hier andeuten. Da sprach ganz aus dem Bewußtsein moderner wissenschaftlicher Orientierung heraus Rosa Luxemburg zu den Arbeitern, die sich am Sonntagnachmittag versammelt hatten mit ihren Frauen, ja mit ihren Kindern, um etwas zu hören über die Frage: Wie kommt der Mensch als Arbeiter zu einem menschenwürdigen Dasein? oder: Wie hat er über sein Dasein als Mensch zu denken? — Sie sagte damals: O lange, lange hat die Menschheit in Illusionen gelebt über die alten Zeiten. Jetzt endlich ist die Menschheit dazu gekommen, durch ihre Wissenschaft zu erkennen, wie alle Menschen vom gleichen tierischen Ursprung sind. Wie der Mensch sich anfangs — das sind fast ihre eigenen Worte — höchst unanständig als Baumkletterer benommen hat. Dann fügte sie hinzu: Kann da noch jemand glauben, daß bei solch gleichem Ursprung für alle Menschen irgendeine Berechtigung da sei für das, was als soziale Ungleichheiten heute auftritt?","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":409,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/330/1919-04-28/p011"}],"english":["GA 330/1919-04-28/p011"],"method":"identity","confidence":"high","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":409,"en_words":419,"ratio":1.02,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"verified","verified":true,"evidence":["length","meaning","anchors","audit"]},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":1.04,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":9703,"original_word_count":9371,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"SOL2024","book_title":"The Reorganization of the Social Organism","publisher":"Steiner Online Library","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA330/English/SOL2024/19190428p02.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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