{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 330/1919-05-13/p031","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"Dear attendees! Although I am completely convinced that he is not even aware of how he actually came to his assertions, and although I do not in the least want to deny him a kind of goodwill, what the second speaker has discussed here makes me feel that, piece by piece, he has each time what I said, sometimes by a quarter, sometimes by half, sometimes completely reversed, and then polemicized against his own assertions, discussed with them, in order to arrive at something that has nothing at all to do with what you heard from me today or yesterday. It happens very often that one creates the possibility of discussion through such preconditions, and so I would like to discuss only a few individual points from this perhaps quite unconscious discussion practice. For example, the gentleman who spoke before repeatedly dwells on the opinion that I advocate tyranny or the supremacy of the intellectually gifted. How does he make it clear that, according to what I have discussed, one consequence could be that the intellectually gifted should rule? Now I do not know whether the speaker has also heard what I said here recently, or whether he knows what is in my book. Otherwise he would know that the underlying principle of all the impulses I am talking about is that all human talents find their appropriate social place. It is precisely a matter of the structure of such a social organism, which does not give priority to any particular talent, but which makes it possible for each talent to find its appropriate place. This cannot be achieved by anything other than the thorough selection and development of the various talents in places where people understand talents and where talents can be managed in the right way. The spiritual organism will have to see its main task in developing talents. Read my book carefully. Do not add a single adjective to what I say, but take what I really say as it is. Then you will see that in the field of spiritual life not only spiritual talents are developed, but all talents down to the most physical ones. The spiritual organism is not there to create a spiritual aristocracy, but to develop all talents. Apart from the fact that I pointed out last time that a spiritual gift cannot really exist without at the same time offering the possibility of developing a manual gift when necessary. In short, the speaker has not made the slightest effort to break out of previous thought habits and really muster the will to rethink, but has criticized, according to what has been customary up to now, something that consciously strives out of what has been customary up to now. But that seems to me to be what must be overcome above all. People who, even if they have good will, do not make the effort to understand what the other person is saying and wanting, are precisely the ones who have led us into today's situation. And painful as it is for me, I must say: I can only see in the previous speaker one of those people who do not want to let us out of the confusion. Before the great world catastrophe, one could understand such people for my sake, because in those days the great test and the great questions had not yet come to humanity. But today we should truly not want to stop the course of development by our stubborn thinking. That is what makes me so anxious when people come up with all kinds of old stereotyped ideas and even want to frighten people by saying that the other person is a thought anarchist or something similar; I did not understand the adjective. These are things that can be frightening. One must counter what can really be inferred from what has been said. According to the imagination, what the speaker said can be inferred from the threefold structure, but read my book and you will see that every possible precaution, if I may say so, has been taken to ensure that what appears to be inferred here cannot be inferred at all.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"VI. The Future of Capital and Human Labor","site_heading":null,"date":"1919-05-13","location":null,"word_count":696,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/330/1919-05-13/p031","alignment_confidence":"high","alignment_reason":"beads:length","two_voice_volume":false,"translation_credit":{"scope":"unit","status":"established","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"SOL2024","book_title":"The Reorganization of the Social Organism","publisher":"Steiner Online Library","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA330/English/SOL2024/19190513p02.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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Was der zweite Herr Redner hier erörtert hat, das macht, obwohl ich völlig überzeugt bin, daß er sich gar nicht bewußt ist, wie er eigentlich zu seinen Behauptungen gekommen ist, und obwohl ich ihm nicht im geringsten eine Art guten Willen absprechen will, auf mich den Eindruck, daß er Stück für Stück jedesmal das, was ich gesagt habe, zum Teil um ein Viertel, zum Teil um die Hälfte, manchmal auch ganz herumgedreht und dann gegen seine eigenen Behauptungen polemisiert, mit ihnen diskutiert hat, um zuletzt bei etwas anzukommen, was nicht das geringste mehr mit dem zu tun hat, was Sie heute oder gestern von mir gehört haben. Es kommt ja sehr häufig vor, daß man sich die Möglichkeit der Diskussion durch solche Vorbedingungen schafft, und so möchte ich nur einzelnes weniges aus dieser vielleicht recht unbewußten Diskussionspraxis heraus besprechen. Zum Beispiel tanzt der Herr Vorredner wiederholt auf der Meinung herum, ich hätte vertreten die Tyrannis oder die Vorherrschaft der geistig Begabten. Wodurch macht er bemerklich, daß nach dem, was ich auseinandergesetzt habe, eine Folge sein könnte, daß die geistig Begabten herrschen sollten? Nun weiß ich nicht, ob der Herr Redner auch das gehört hat, was ich neulich hier gesprochen habe, oder ob er weiß, was in meinem Buche steht. Er würde sonst wissen, daß es sich bei alledem, was den Impulsen, von denen ich rede, zugrunde liegt, darum handelt, daß alle menschlichen Begabungen an ihre entsprechende soziale Stelle hinkommen. Es handelt sich gerade um die Gliederung eines solchen sozialen Organismus, der nicht irgendeiner Begabung den Vorrang gibt, sondern der es möglich macht, daß eine jede Begabung an den ihr angemessenen Platz kommt. Das kann durch nichts anderes erreicht werden, als wenn die durch und durch verschiedenen Begabungen da ausgelesen und entwickelt werden, wo man sich auf Begabungen versteht, wo Begabungen in der richtigen Weise verwaltet werden können. Der geistige Organismus wird seine Hauptaufgabe darin sehen müssen, Begabungen zu entwickeln. Lesen Sie aufmerksam mein Buch. Hören Sie nicht ein Eigenschaftswort zu dem hinzu, was ich sage, sondern nehmen Sie die Dinge so, wie ich sie wirklich sage, dann werden Sie sehen, daß auf dem Boden des Geisteslebens nicht nur die geistigen Begabungen entwickelt werden, sondern alle Begabungen bis in die körperlichsten Begabungen herunter. Der geistige Organismus ist nicht dazu da, um eine geistige Aristokratie zu schaffen, sondern um sämtliche Begabungen wirklich zu entwickeln. Abgesehen davon, daß ich das letztemal aufmerksam gemacht habe darauf, daß eine geistige Begabung gar nicht in Wirklichkeit bestehen kann, ohne zu gleicher Zeit die Möglichkeit zu bieten, wenn es nötig ist, eine manuelle Begabung zu entwickeln. Kurz, der Redner hat sich nicht die geringste Mühe gegeben, aus den bisherigen Denkgewohnheiten herauszukommen und wirklich sich aufzuraffen zu dem Willen, umzudenken, sondern er hat nach dem, was bisher üblich war, etwas kritisiert, was bewußt herausstrebt aus dem, was bisher üblich war. Das aber erscheint mir als dasjenige, was vor allen Dingen überwunden werden muß. Die Menschen, welche sich nicht, wenn sie auch guten Willen haben, die Mühe geben, sich hineinzufinden in dasjenige, was der andere sagt und will, das sind gerade diejenigen, die uns in die heutige Lage hineingeführt haben. Und so schmerzlich es mir ist, muß ich doch sagen: Ich kann in dem Herrn Vorredner nur einen derjenigen Menschen sehen, die uns nicht hinauskommen lassen wollen aus der Wirrnis. Vor der großen Weltkatastrophe konnte man meinetwillen solche Menschen verstehen, denn dazumal waren nicht die große Prüfung und die großen Fragen an die Menschheit herangekommen. Heute aber sollten wir wahrlich nicht durch unsere Denkeigensinnigkeit den Gang der Entwickelung aufhalten wollen. Das ist dasjenige, was mich so ängstlich macht, wenn die Menschen mit allen möglichen alten Schablonenbegriffen aufwarten und sogar graulich machen wollen, indem sie sagen, der andere sei Gedankenanarchist oder so ähnlich, ich habe das Eigenschaftswort nicht verstanden. Das sind Dinge, die graulich machen können. Dem muß man gegenüberhalten, was aus dem Gesagten wirklich hervorgehen kann. Nach der Einbildung geht das aus der Dreigliederung hervor, was der Redner gesagt hat, aber lesen Sie mein Buch, und Sie werden sehen, daß da alle möglichen Vorkehrungen, wenn ich so sagen darf, getroffen sind, damit eben dasjenige, was hier scheinbar hervorgehen soll, gar nicht hervorgehen kann.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":698,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/330/1919-05-13/p030"}],"english":["GA 330/1919-05-13/p031"],"method":"length","confidence":"high","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":698,"en_words":696,"ratio":1.0,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"proposed","verified":false},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":1.05,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":10155,"original_word_count":9700,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"SOL2024","book_title":"The Reorganization of the Social Organism","publisher":"Steiner Online Library","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA330/English/SOL2024/19190513p02.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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