{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 330/1919-05-13/p036","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"Similar things have been said many times. I was particularly surprised to hear the expression “spiritual capitalism”. I don't know what that means, especially how it might be used after a lecture in which the circulation of capital was discussed in the way I discussed it. Intellectual owners – yes, honored attendees, just try to think with realities! Imagine the social organism – the speaker has not described it as he imagines it – according to the few hints the speaker has made. Then you will have to say: What is it exactly, if, let us say, intellectual workers work alongside manual workers under some kind of socialist order? I do not know what kind of difference it is supposed to make to my economic organism that the intellectual worker works alongside the manual worker. I have expressly stated: ownership ceases at the moment when the capital is realized, that is, when the means of production are there. How one can then speak of intellectual ownership is completely beyond me. From the particular experiences mentioned by the esteemed speaker, one can of course derive anything one wants. One can of course derive a great deal from the atrophy of the soul and the like. I did not find it very tasteful when the speaker concluded by saying that he would leave the middle class to me so that the proletariat would be all the more assured to him. Well, there is no need to get involved in such things, because whether you ultimately see it as an inflammatory phrase or not is entirely a matter of taste.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"VI. 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Besonders überrascht war ich, den Ausdruck «Geistkapitalismus» zu hören. Was man sich darunter vorstellen soll, das weiß ich nicht, insbesondere weiß ich nicht, wie er gebraucht werden mag nach einem Vortrag, in dem über die Zirkulation des Kapitals in der Weise gesprochen worden ist, wie ich gesprochen habe. Geistige Besitzer - ja, sehr verehrte Anwesende, man versuche doch nur einmal, mit Realitäten zu denken! Stellen Sie sich den sozialen Organismus — der Redner hat ihn ja nicht geschildert, wie er ihn sich vorstellt — vor nach den wenigen Andeutungen, die der Redner gemacht hat. Dann werden Sie doch wohl sagen müssen: Was ist denn das eigentlich, wenn, sagen wir, durch irgendeine sozialistische Ordnung geistige Arbeiter eben arbeiten neben dem Handarbeiter? Ich weiß nicht, was das für ein Unterschied sein soll gegenüber dem, was auch in meinem Wirtschaftsorganismus da sein muß, daß der geistige Arbeiter arbeitet neben dem Handarbeiter. Ich habe ausdrücklich erklärt: Der Besitz hört auf in dem Moment, wo das Kapital realisiert ist, das heißt das Produktionsmittel da ist. Wie man dann von geistigen Besitzern sprechen kann, das ist mir ganz und gar unerfindlich. Aus einzelnen besonderen Erfahrungen, die der verehrte Redner angeführt hat, kann man selbstverständlich alles mögliche, was man nur will, herleiten. Von der Verkümmerung des Seelenlebens und dergleichen kann man selbstverständlich sehr viel herleiten. Das fand ich nicht sehr geschmackvoll, womit der Herr Redner geschlossen hat, daß er sich darauf bezog, er überläßt mir das Bürgertum, damit dann ihm um so besser das Proletariat gesichert sei. 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