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Anyone who can look at these things in depth knows something else entirely: , he knows that the inner form, the content of spiritual life itself becomes dependent on its relationship to the other organisms, which can only be a healthy one if the spiritual life develops in complete independence. Otherwise, dependencies also conceal and mask themselves. If it occurs independently, if it occurs in complete freedom, if it is completely left to its own devices, then a healthy relationship with the legal and economic body will arise naturally in life. How we adjust our own impulses; otherwise, due to certain prejudices, we do not notice things. Let us take a case that could seem radical, but which is quite characteristic. Let us assume that some young student wants to take his doctorate in the field of philology. He is advised to write, say, about feeling words in some old Roman writer or about the [parenthesis] in Homer. Such a task even had to be done by a young friend of mine. For such a work, a young person needs a year of extensive work.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":253,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/336/1919-02-14/p056","witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"SOL2024","book_title":"The Big Questions of our Time and Anthroposophical Spiritual Knowledge","publisher":"Steiner Online Library","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA336/English/SOL2024/19190214e01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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Because a spiritual achievement only fits into the healthy human organism with a proper interest if it is desired, if there is a need for it. That is what matters.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":172,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/336/1919-02-14/p057","witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"SOL2024","book_title":"The Big Questions of our Time and Anthroposophical Spiritual Knowledge","publisher":"Steiner Online Library","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA336/English/SOL2024/19190214e01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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Denn nicht allein, dass etwa die Persönlichkeiten, von denen das geistige Leben getrieben wird, in Abhängigkeit kommen vom Staatsleben, dienen müssen demjenigen, was die Einrichtungen des Staatslebens sind — derjenige, der diese Dinge bis in ihre Tiefen betrachten kann, der weiß noch etwas ganz anderes, der weiß, dass die innere Gestalt, der Inhalt des geistigen Lebens selber abhängig wird von der Beziehung zu den anderen Organismen, die nur eine gesunde sein kann, wenn das geistige Leben sich in völliger Selbstständigkeit entwickelt, sonst kaschieren und maskieren sich auch die Abhängigkeiten. Tritt es selbstständig auf, tritt es in völliger Freiheit auf, ist es ganz auf sich selbst gestellt, dann wird sich ein gesundes Verhältnis zum Rechts- und Wirtschaftskörper ganz von selbst ergeben im Leben. Wie wir eigene Impulse einstellen; sonst bemerkt man aus gewissen Vorurteilen heraus die Dinge nicht. Nehmen wir einen Fall, der ja radikal wirken könnte, aber der durchaus charakteristisch ist. Nehmen wir an, irgendein junger Student will sein Doktorexamen machen auf dem Gebiete der Philologie. Er bekommt den Rat, zu schreiben, sagen wir, über Empfindungswörter bei irgendeinem alten römischen Schriftsteller oder über die [Parenthesen] bei Homer. Solch eine Aufgabe hat sogar ein junger Freund von mir machen müssen. Zu solch einer Arbeit braucht ein junger Mensch ein Jahr ausgiebiger Arbeit.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":243,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/336/1919-02-14/p056"},{"locus":"GA 336/1919-02-14/p057","passage_number":57,"text":"Derjenige, der so schlafend im heutigen Wissenschaftsleben drinnensteht, der wird etwa da sagen: Nun ja, wissenschaftliche Interessen. Die Wissenschaft fordert eine solche Untersuchung über die Empfindungswörter eines alten römischen Schriftstellers, oder über die [Parenthesen] bei Homer. Damit ist der Wissenschaft ein Dienst geleistet. Aber es ist etwas [anderes] zu bedenken. Es ist das gesunde Verhältnis einer solchen Arbeit zu dem gesamtmenschlichen Leben zu betrachten. Das muss durchsichtig werden im gesamten menschlichen [sozialen] Organismus. Der Student, der ein Jahr lang arbeitet, um festzustellen die verborgenen [Parenthesen] bei Homer, der isst, der trinkt, der kleidet sich ein Jahr. Das heißt: Für diese Arbeit müssen eine Anzahl von Menschen arbeiten, Arbeit leisten ein Jahr hindurch, um ihn zu ernähren, um ihn zu kleiden, damit er in der Zeit dasjenige machen kann, was ganz gewiss nicht in einem angemessenen Interesse sich hineinstellt in den gesunden menschlichen [sozialen] Organismus! Denn mit einem angemessenen Interesse stellt sich nur dann eine geistige Leistung in den gesunden menschlichen Organismus hinein, wenn sie verlangt wird, wenn ein Bedürfnis nach ihr vorhanden ist. Das ist es, worauf es ankommt.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":179,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/336/1919-02-14/p057"},{"locus":"GA 336/1919-02-14/p058","passage_number":58,"text":"Und noch auf etwas anderes kommt es an. Von dieser gesunden Entwicklung des geistigen Gliedes des sozialen Organismus hängt es ab, dass auch das Geistige in der menschlichen Kultur die entsprechende Stoßkraft habe, dass sie wirklich hervorbringe dasjenige, was wirklichkeitstragend ist. Aus diesem geistigen Leben entspringen zum Beispiel auch die technischen Ideen, entspringt dasjenige, was als Geistiges immerfort produzierend und produktiv eingreift in das Wirtschaftsleben. Das wird nur in gesunder Weise geboren in einem wirklichen Geistesleben, nicht in einem bis zur Abstraktheit abgetöteten Geistesleben, das mit dem Ausdruck Ideologie bezeichnet werden kann.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":92,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/336/1919-02-14/p058"},{"locus":"GA 336/1919-02-14/p059","passage_number":59,"text":"Das Wichtige ist nicht, dass man etwa kämpfe gegen die Bezeichnung des Geisteslebens als Ideologie durch die Führer des modernen Proletariats, sondern dass man einsieht: Dasjenige Geistesleben, das hervorgegangen ist durch die unselige Verquickung der geistigen Kultur mit den andern beiden Gliedern des sozialen Organismus, das hat das Geistesleben heruntergedrückt zur Ideologie. Es ist leicht, das moderne Geistesleben als Ideologie zu bezeichnen; aber es muss wiederum eintreten im gesunden sozialen Organismus ein produktives, ein selbstwirksames Geistesleben. Das wird gesund auch in das Wirtschaftsleben, auch in das Rechtsleben eingreifen. Das muss wiederum relativ selbstständig dastehen.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":94,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/336/1919-02-14/p059"},{"locus":"GA 336/1919-02-14/p060","passage_number":60,"text":"Dass dieses Leben in der geistigen Kultur, im dritten Gliede des gesunden sozialen Organismus, gebaut sein muss auf sich selbst, ich glaube es gezeigt zu haben schon im Anfang der Neunzigerjahre des vorigen Jahrhunderts in meiner «Philosophie der Freiheit», die jetzt, wie ich glaube, zur rechten Zeit ihre Neuauflage erlebt hat, und die da zeigt, dass wirkliche Freiheit nur da sein kann, aber auch nur da berechtigt ist, wo wahres Geistesleben erblühen kann.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":73,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/336/1919-02-14/p060"}],"beads":[{"from":[56],"to":[56],"confidence":"high"},{"from":[57],"to":[57],"confidence":"high"},{"from":[58],"to":[58],"confidence":"high"},{"from":[59],"to":[59],"confidence":"high"},{"from":[60],"to":[60],"confidence":"high"}],"note":"Paired by the paragraph aligner; each language numbers its own paragraphs. 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