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You see, much more than one might think, so-called physical illnesses — in the sense in which I also spoke this morning — depend on spiritual-soul preconditions, and actually there are no real soul illnesses at all, but soul illnesses are basically always based, albeit sometimes on very distant, minute physical illnesses. I would like to emphasize that anthroposophy does not take the view that one speaks of mental illnesses and the like and also wants to heal the so-called mental illnesses spiritually. The point is that in this area in particular, today's external, materialistic medicine — which has almost entirely become a description of abnormal states of mind, in this respect there are indeed the most detailed medical histories — is very much mistaken. The cure for so-called mental illnesses is usually to be found in physical healing, because it is the case that the spiritual-soul is not ill, but can only fail to appear, cannot express itself, through the sick physical. 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It is true that you will sometimes have to ask yourself: Where is the possibility of treating a physical lunatic? — and one often encounters the greatest difficulties with this, because the things that are at issue are extraordinarily difficult to deal with.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":75,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/343/1921-10-10_02/p075","unit_kind":{"kind":"second_lecture_same_day","base_unit":"GA 343/1921-10-10","note":"Another lecture given on the same date as 1921-10-10; the suffix only separates two lectures of one day."},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"SOL2024","book_title":"Lectures on Christian Religious Work II","publisher":"Steiner Online Library","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA343/English/SOL2024/19211010p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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Denn, sehen Sie, viel mehr als man glaubt, sind sogenannte physische Erkrankungen — in dem Sinn, wie ich heute vormittag auch gesagt habe — von geistig-seelischen Vorbedingungen abhängig, und eigentlich gibt es gar keine wirklichen Seelenerkrankungen, sondern seelische Krankheiten beruhen im Grunde genommen immer, wenn auch manchmal auf sehr weit zurückliegenden, minuziösen physischen Erkrankungen. Ich betone ausdrücklich: Die Anthroposophie steht da nicht auf dem Standpunkt, wo man von Seelenerkrankungen und dergleichen spricht und die sogenannten Seelenkrankheiten und Geisteskrankheiten auch geistig heilen will. Es handelt sich durchaus darum, daß gerade auf diesem Gebiete die heutige äußere, materialistische Medizin — die fast ganz und gar nur zu einer Beschreibung der abnormalen Seelenzustände geworden ist, in dieser Beziehung gibt es ja die ausführlichsten Krankengeschichten — sehr irrt. Die Heilung für die sogenannten Geisteskrankheiten hat man in der Regel in physischen Heilungen zu sehen, denn es ist so, daß das Geistig-Seelische nicht krank ist, sondern nur durch das kranke Physische nicht zur Erscheinung kommen kann, nicht zum Ausdruck kommen kann. Man könnte sogar bis zu dem Paradoxon gehen: Physische Krankheiten gehen auf geistige Ursachen, geistige Krankheiten gehen auf physische Ursachen zurück. Natürlich darf man ein solches Paradoxon dann nicht pressen.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":205,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/343/1921-10-10_02/p074"},{"locus":"GA 343/1921-10-10_02/p075","passage_number":75,"text":"Also da werden wir gerade über alle Dilettantismen, die heute in den Lehren von Hypnotismus, von Suggestion oder gar der Psychoanalyse auftreten, hinausgeführt zu einer gesunden Medizin, welche mit dem Leiblich-Geistigen arbeitet, die ja gewisse Schwierigkeiten haben wird, angenommen zu werden, aber die ja hoffentlich auch ihren Weg machen wird, weil sie ihn einfach machen muß. Es ist wirklich so, daß Sie sich manchmal werden fragen müssen: Wo liegt die Möglichkeit, einen Irren gerade physisch zu behandeln? — und man damit eben oftmals auf die größten Schwierigkeiten stößt, weil den Dingen außerordentlich schwer beizukommen ist, um die es sich da handelt.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":101,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/343/1921-10-10_02/p075"}],"beads":[{"from":[74],"to":[74],"confidence":"high"},{"from":[75],"to":[75],"confidence":"high"}],"note":"Paired by the paragraph aligner; each language numbers its own paragraphs. A bead at either end of the span can carry text beyond it (the `from` numbers show what each bead covers)."}}