{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 343/gnostics_and_montanists/p006","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"I would like to give you access, somewhat in the way I have out of Anthroposophy, by means of a presentation, which you can visualise as symptomatic of what history brings. One of the most extinct things belonging in the first Christian centuries was referred to as the Pistis, placed in contrast to the Gnosis. The Gnosis can't be understood if one doesn't know that in that time epoch, in which, let's say, you appeared in the form of a Basilides or Valentinus, people who lived in the spirituality of that time, were fighting a very terrible battle, which can be characterised by them asking a question: What do we poor people have to do on the one hand with the spirit that juts in our souls, and on the other hand our physical body into which our soul likewise juts into? In a terrifying manner this question played out in the soul battle among religious people. The two opposite poles, to a certain extent, of this battle was the Gnosis and Montanism sect.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"XIV. Gnostics and Montanists","site_heading":null,"date":"1921-10-03","location":null,"word_count":174,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/343/gnostics_and_montanists/p006","alignment_confidence":"high","alignment_reason":"beads:length","two_voice_volume":false,"translation_credit":{"scope":"unit","status":"established","translator":"Hanna von Maltitz","identified_edition":"SOL2018","book_title":"The Foundation Course","publisher":"Steiner Online Library","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA343/English/SOL2018/Lecture_14_4616a.html","evidence":"lecture_list_row","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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Die Gnosis ist gar nicht zu verstehen, wenn man nicht weiß, daß in dem Zeitalter, in dem sie, sagen wir, in der Form des Basilides oder des Valentinus [auftrat], bei denjenigen Menschen, die drinnenstanden in dem geistigen Leben der damaligen Zeit, ein ganz furchtbarer Kampf ausgefochten wurde, der sich etwas charakterisieren läßt, wenn man die Frage hinstellt: Was fangen wir armen Menschen jetzt an auf der einen Seite mit dem Geiste, der hereinragt in unsere Seele, und auf der anderen Seite mit unserer physischen Leiblichkeit, in die unsere Seele ebenso hereinragt? In einer furchtbaren Weise hat sich diese Frage als Seelenkampf gerade bei den religiösesten Menschen der angezeigten Jahrhunderte abgespielt. Und die zwei Gegenpole gewissermaßen in diesem Kampfe stellen dar die Gnosis und der Montanismus.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":177,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/343/gnostics_and_montanists/p006"}],"english":["GA 343/gnostics_and_montanists/p006"],"method":"length","confidence":"high","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":177,"en_words":174,"ratio":0.98,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"proposed","verified":false},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":0.99,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":6323,"original_word_count":6411,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Hanna von Maltitz","identified_edition":"SOL2018","book_title":"The Foundation Course","publisher":"Steiner Online Library","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA343/English/SOL2018/Lecture_14_4616a.html","evidence":"lecture_list_row","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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