{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 343/gnostics_and_montanists/p021","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"This is in contrast to the Gnosis, this is the other pole: it had a different danger, the danger that all historic development of humanity is to be imagined in space and time. The urge to imagine such an idea of the world is what Augustinus for instance experienced in his exchange with the Bishop Faustus. Through Faustus a method of imagination is introduced which is completely tinged with the senses as images presented to Augustinus, and this became a materialistic experience of the world for Augustinus, from where he approached the world. Augustinus' words are gripping: I search for God in the stars, and do not find Him. I search for God in the sun, in the moon, and don't find Him. I search for God in all the plants, in all the animals, and don't find Him. I search for God on the mountains, in the rivers; I don't find Him.—","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"XIV. Gnostics and Montanists","site_heading":null,"date":"1921-10-03","location":null,"word_count":153,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/343/gnostics_and_montanists/p021","alignment_confidence":"high","alignment_reason":"beads:length","two_voice_volume":false,"translation_credit":{"scope":"unit","status":"established","translator":"Hanna von Maltitz","identified_edition":"SOL2018","book_title":"The Foundation Course","publisher":"Steiner Online Library","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA343/English/SOL2018/Lecture_14_4616a.html","evidence":"lecture_list_row","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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Ich suchte Gott in der Sonne, im Monde, ich fand ihn nicht. Ich suchte Gott in allen Pflanzen, in allen Tieren, ich fand ihn nicht. Ich suchte Gott auf Bergen, in Flüssen, ich fand ihn nicht. Ich suchte Gott in allen Gestaltungen der Erde, ich fand ihn nicht, — Er meint, in all den Abbildern ergab sich ihm nicht das innere Erleben der Gottheit, wie es sich den Montanisten ergab. Dadurch lernt Augustinus ja doch eine Gestaltung der christlichen Entwickelung kennen, wie sich ihm das im Gespräch mit Faustus ergab, dadurch lernt Augustinus den Materialismus kennen. 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