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This is still the unfulfilled striving of the Theosophists in the first half of the 19th century, started at the end of the 18th century when we must see the dawn of that which was completely buried at the end of the 19th and the beginning of the 20th century, and which must, from all those who experience the necessity for religious renewal, be seen.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"XIV. 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Dieses Aufbieten der Kraft im Suchen des Moralischen, im Rettenwollen des Göttlichen, indem man es nur auf das Moralische anwandte, das empfanden in ihrer schlichten, tiefen, allerdings unvollkommenen Art jene süddeutschen religiösen Leute, die heute nur als Sektierer angesehen werden, die Theosophen, die wir ja einerseits in Bengel, andererseits in Oetinger finden, die aber viel zahlreicher waren als diese zwei, und die mit aller Macht danach strebten, völlig ernst zu nehmen die Erringung des Göttlichen im Moralischen, die aber gerade, indem sie die Erringung des Göttlichen im Moralischen suchen, darauf kommen: Wir brauchen eine Eschatologie, wir brauchen eine Prophetie, wir brauchen ein Vorausschauen im Weltengang. Daher das noch Unvollkommene im Streben dieser Theosophen von der ersten Hälfte des 19. Jahrhunderts, vom Ende des 18. Jahrhunderts, in denen wir das Morgenrot sehen müssen von demjenigen, was dann neuerdings völlig verschüttet worden ist am Ende des 19.Jahrhunderts und im Beginne des 20. 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