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If you take everything which I have said about language, and then consider that the Bible text has originated out of quite another kind of experience of language than we have today, and also as it was experienced centuries before in Luther's time, you can hardly hope to somehow discover an understanding of the Bible through some small outer adjustment. To understand the Bible, a real penetration of Christianity is needed above all, and actually this can only emerge from a Bible text as something similar for us as the Gospels had once appeared for the first Christians. In the time of the first Christians one certainly had the feeling of sound and some of what can be experienced in the words in the beginning of St John's Gospel which was of course experienced quite differently in the first Christian centuries as one would be able to do today. \"In the primal beginnings was the Word\"—you see, today there doesn't seem to be much more than a sign in this line, I'd say. 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We are not transported back into the ancient mists of the nebular hypothesis by the Kant-Laplace theory, but we will be led back to the sound and loud prehistoric power. This returning into a prehistoric power is something which was experienced powerfully in the first Christian centuries, and it was also strongly felt that it deals with a verb, because it is an absurdity to say: In the prehistoric times there was a noun.—We call it \"Word\" which can be any part of speech. 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Denn wenn Sie alles das nehmen, was ich gerade mit Bezug auf die Sprache gesagt habe, und dann sich überlegen, daß ja der Bibeltext hervorgegangen ist aus einem ganz anderen Erleben der Sprache, als wir es heute haben und auch, als man es Jahrhunderte vorher zu Luthers Zeiten hatte, dann können Sie gar nicht hoffen, daß nur durch kleine äußere Veränderungen irgendwie zu einem Bibelverständnis vorgedrungen werden kann. Zum Bibelverständnis gehört vor allen Dingen ein wirkliches Eindringen in das Christentum, und eigentlich kann nur aus einem solchen auch ein Bibeltext hervorgehen, der für uns etwas ähnliches sein kann, wie es die Evangelien einmal für die ersten Christen waren. In der Zeit der ersten Christen hatte man durchaus das Lautgefühl, und manches, was man in der Sprache erleben kann im Eingange des Johannes-Evangeliums, erlebte natürlich auch der Mensch der ersten christlichen Jahrhunderte noch ganz anders, als man es heute erleben kann. «Im Urbeginne war das Wort» —, ja, sehen Sie, heute ist in dieser Zeile nicht viel mehr gegeben als ein Zeichen, möchte ich sagen. Wir kommen schon dem Verständnis näher, wenn wir statt «Wort», was ja für uns schon furchtbar schattenhaft und abstrakt ist, «Verbum» setzen und wirklich auch unser Gefühl für das Verbum im Gegensatz zum Substantivum entwickeln. Im Urbeginne war das Verbum, nicht das Substantivum. Ich will es zunächst in dieser Abstraktion sagen. Verbum ist für uns ganz richtig das Zeitwort, das Tätigkeitswort; und es ist ein Unding, daran zu denken, in die Region, die man bezeichnet hat als «im Urbeginne», etwa das Substantivum hinzusetzen. Es hat nur einen Sinn, das Verbum, das Tätigkeitswort, hinzusetzen. Es liegt in diesem Satze schon das darin, daß im Urbeginne eine Tätigkeit war, welche aber nicht die Tätigkeit ist, die der Mensch mit Gebärden oder mit Handhabungen verrichtet, sondern die Tätigkeit, die aus dem Verbum, aus dem Tätigkeitswort herausströmt. Wir werden nicht wie durch die Kant-Laplacesche Nebularhypothese in einen Urnebel versetzt, sondern wir werden in eine tönende und lautende Urgeschehnismacht zurückgeführt. Dieses Zurückgeführtwerden in eine Urgeschehnismacht ist etwas, was in den ersten christlichen Jahrhunderten stark gefühlt worden ist; und stark wurde da auch gefühlt, daß es sich um das Verbum handelt, und daß es ein Unding wäre zu sagen: Im Urbeginne war das Substantivum. — Wir sagen «Wort», das kann jeder beliebige Redeteil sein. 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