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Wer dazumal in der Mitte der atlantischen Zeit die Sehnsucht hatte, etwas weit weg Liegendes zu ergreifen, dessen Wille wirkte in seine quallenartigen Organe so hinein, daß diese sich weit verlängerten. Es war also das ganze physische Geschehen ein anderes, die physischen Vorgänge in der jeweiligen Gegenwart waren in ihrem ganzen Verlauf andere. Es zeigte sich in allen physischen Vorgängen, in allen Transformationen, Metamorphosen ein Bild des wirklichen geistigen Geschehens.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":155,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/346/1924-09-16/p010"},{"locus":"GA 346/1924-09-16/p011","passage_number":11,"text":"Heute ist das ja nicht so. Heute sehen wir hinaus, und in dem, was da draußen geschieht, selbst im Verlauf der Jahreszeiten, gewahrt ja der Mensch das Wirken des Geistes nicht mehr. Bei jenen schnellen Transformationen im alten atlantischen Zeitalter gab es für den Menschen keinen Zweifel, daß in dieser Welt Göttlich-Geistiges enthalten war. Wenn auch der atlantische Kontinent damals im wesentlichen schon in seinen Formen blieb, er war etwas außerordentlich Bewegliches, ringsum von webender dichter Flüssigkeit eingeschlossen, er war etwas, man kann nicht sagen Halbflüssiges, aber doch Zähflüssiges, das die noch so weich organisierten Körper tragen konnte, die damals noch nicht auf dem Erdboden befestigten Pflanzen, die durchaus noch in dem substantiell Weichen, Beweglichen mehr oder weniger schwebenden oder gleitenden Pflanzen. Also es waren ganz andere physische Verhältnisse. Man kann sagen: Meer und Land waren noch nicht in der Weise geschieden wie später, sie gingen noch ineinander über. 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