{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 55/1906-11-08_02/p008","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"People at all times have believed that they must recognise that life and suffering are deeply entwined—at least the life of modern man and of the higher creatures on our globe. Thus at the beginning of the Biblical story of Creation the knowledge of good and evil and suffering are intimately bound up with one another. Yet we also see on the other hand, in the midst of the Old Testament conception how, out of a dark view of sorrow, a bright light-filled one dawns. When we look around us in the Old Testament and study the Creation story in regard to this question it is clear that suffering and sin were brought together, that suffering was looked on as the consequence of sin. In the modern mode of thinking, where the materialistic concept of the world penetrates everywhere, it is no longer easy to grasp how the cause of suffering can be sought for in sin. But through spiritual research and the power to look back into earlier ages, it will be found to be not so meaningless to believe in such a connection. The next lecture will show us that it is possible to see a connection between evil and suffering. But for ancient Jewry it was impossible to explain the cause of suffering. We see in the centre of this view that brings suffering and sin into connection the remarkable figure of Job. It is a figure which shows us, or is meant to show us, how suffering and unspeakable pain can be connected with a completely guiltless life, how there can be unearned pain and suffering. We see dawning in the consciousness of this unique tragic personality, Job, yet another connection of pain and suffering, a connection with the ennobling of man. Suffering appears to us then as a testing, as the root of a climbing upwards, of a higher development. Suffering in the sense of this Job-tragedy need in no way have its origin in evil, it can itself be first cause, so that what proceeds from it represents a more perfect phase of human life. All of that lies somewhat remote from our modern thinking, and the generality of our modern educated public can find but little connection with it. You need only think back in your life, however, and you will see how perfection and suffering very often appeared together and how mankind has always been aware of this connection. Such a consciousness will form a bridge to what we are to consider today in the light of spiritual investigation, namely, the connection between suffering and spirituality.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"I. 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Wenn wir uns im Alten Testament umsehen, wenn wir den Schöpfungsmythos in bezug auf diese Frage verfolgen, so wird uns klar, daß man innerhalb dieser alten Weltanschauung Leiden und Sünde zusammenbrachte, daß man Leid als die Folge der Sünde ansah. Heute, bei der Denkweise, die selbst da, wo man nicht recht will, sich der materialistischen Weltauffassung nähert, begreift man nicht m hr leicht, wie man in der Sünde die Ursache des Leidens suchen kann. Aber wenn wir Geistesforscher sind und uns in frühere Zeitalter hineindenken lernen, dann werden wir sehen, daß es nicht ganz so unsinnig ist, an einen solchen Zusammenhang zu glauben, und der nächste Vortrag wird uns zeigen, daß es eine Möglichkeit gibt, einen Zusammenhang zwischen dem Bösen und dem Leid zu sehen. Das Leid aber aus seinen Ursachen zu erklären, stellte sich für die Anschauung des alten Judentums als eine Unmöglichkeit heraus. So sehen wir, daß mitten in dieser Anschauung, die Leid und Sünde in Zusammenhang bringt, die merkwürdige Gestalt des Hiob steht, jene Gestalt, die uns zeigt oder zeigen will, wie Leiden und unsägliche Schmerzen mit einem vollkommen unschuldigen Leben zusammenhängen können, wie es unverdiente Leiden und Schmerzen geben kann. In dem Bewußtsein dieser eigenartig tragischen Persönlichkeit Hiob sehen wir noch einen anderen Zusammenhang von Leid und Schmerz aufdämmern, einen Zusammenhang mit der Veredlung des Menschen. Das Leid erscheint uns da als eine Prüfung, als Wurzel eines Aufwärtsklimmens, einer Höherentwicklung. So braucht dieses Leiden im Sinne dieser Hiob-Tragik keineswegs seinen Ursprung im Bösen zu haben, sondern kann selbst erster Ursprung sein, so daß das, was aus ihm hervorgeht, eine vollkommenere Phase menschlichen Daseins, menschlichen Lebens darstellt. Das alles liegt unserem heutigen, modernen Denken ziemlich fern, und die breitere Masse unseres heutigen gebildeten Publikums kann sich nicht mehr in eine solche Denkweise hineinfinden. Sie brauchen aber nur in Ihrem Leben etwas zurückzudenken und Sie werden sehen, daß Vollkommenheit und Leid gar oft auch vor Ihren Augen zusammengestellt erschien, und daß es in der Menschheit immer ein Bewußtsein gegeben hat von dem Zusammenhang zwischen Leiden und Vollkommenheit. Dieses Bewußtsein wird uns hinüberheben zu dem, was wir heute im Sinne der Geistesforschung zu betrachten haben werden, nämlich den Zusammenhang zwischen Leiden und Geistigkeit.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":441,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/55/1906-11-08_02/p008"}],"english":["GA 55/1906-11-08_02/p008"],"method":"length","confidence":"high","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":441,"en_words":434,"ratio":0.98,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"proposed","verified":false},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":0.98,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":6799,"original_word_count":6967,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Mabel Cotterell and Violet E. 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