{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 55/1907-03-14/p047","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"The third stage is knowledge of the occult script. This is no ordinary writing, but one that is connected with nature's secrets. Let me at once make clear how to depict it. A widely used sign is the so-called vortex, which can be thought of as two intertwined figure 6's. This sign is used for indicating and also characterizing a certain type of event that can occur both physically and spiritually. For example, a developing plant will finally produce seeds from which new plants similar to the old one can develop. To think that anything material passes from the old plant to the new is materialistic prejudice without foundation and will eventually be refuted. What passes over to the new plant is formative forces. As far as matter is concerned, the old plant dies completely; materially its offspring is a completely new creation. This dying and new coming-into-being of the plant is indicated by drawing two intertwining spirals, that is, a vortex, but drawing it so that the two spirals do not touch.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"XI. Who are the Rosicrucians?","site_heading":null,"date":"1907-03-14","location":null,"word_count":173,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/55/1907-03-14/p047","alignment_confidence":"medium","alignment_reason":"beads:length","two_voice_volume":false,"translation_credit":{"scope":"unit","status":"established","translator":"Rita Stebbing","identified_edition":"AP1987","book_title":"Supersensible Knowledge","publisher":"Anthroposophic Press","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA055/English/AP1987/19070314p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. The translator IS verified for this lecture: its own source names the translator (evidence: the lecture's page, rsarchive's lecture list, or the cover of the book it was published in), and that page's text was matched against this unit (see match_score and source_url). Cite the translator with confidence; attribute the publisher only as probable."},"edition_coverage":{"de":["original"],"en":["English"]},"available_versions":[{"lang":"de","edition":"original","edition_basis":null,"is_original":true,"is_default_edition":true,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/55/1907-03-14/p047"},{"lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/55/1907-03-14/p047","paragraph_aligned":true}],"record":{"record_type":"unknown","scope":"volume","note":"How this text was taken down (shorthand transcript, listeners' notes or manuscript) is not on record here. 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Die okkulte Schrift ist keine gewöhnliche Schrift, sondern eine solche, die mit den Naturgeheimnissen zusammenhängt. Ich möchte Ihnen gleich klarmachen, was Sie sich unter der okkulten Schrift vorzustellen haben. Ein verbreitetes Zeichen dieser Schrift ist der sogenannte Wirbel. Sie können sich denselben so vorstellen, daß Sie sich zwei Sechser ineinander verschlungen denken. Dieses Zeichen gebraucht man, um gewisse Erscheinungen, die in der ganzen natürlichen und geistigen Welt vorhanden sind, zu kennzeichnen und ihre innere: Natur zu charakterisieren. Wenn Sie eine Pflanze nehmen und betrachten, so werden Sie finden, daß sie sich bis zum Samenkorn entwickelt. Wenn Sie dieses Samenkorn in die Erde legen, so entwickelt sich eine ähnliche Pflanze, die der alten gleich ist. Daß da etwas Stoffliches von der alten Pflanze in die neue übergeht, ist ein materielles Vorurteil, das durch nichts gerechtfertigt ist und von der Zukunft widerlegt werden wird. In die neue Pflanze geht lediglich die bildsame Kraft über. Die alte Pflanze erstirbt stofflich ganz und gar, und die neue Pflanze ist stofflich etwas ganz Neues. Nicht das allergeringste Stoffliche geht aus der alten Pflanze in die neue über. Diesen neuen Ansatz einer Entstehung und eines Vergehens einer Pflanze bezeichnet man dadurch, daß man zwei sich ineinander schlingende Spiralen, also einen Wirbel zeichnet, und zwar ohne eine Verbindung der beiden Linien zu bewirken.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":224,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/55/1907-03-14/p036"}],"english":["GA 55/1907-03-14/p047"],"method":"length","confidence":"medium","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":224,"en_words":173,"ratio":0.77,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"proposed","verified":false},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":0.87,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":7578,"original_word_count":8755,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Rita Stebbing","identified_edition":"AP1987","book_title":"Supersensible Knowledge","publisher":"Anthroposophic Press","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA055/English/AP1987/19070314p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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