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Die Möglichkeit war da, daß innerhalb des geschichtlichen Verlaufs der Menschheit das einmal als historisches Ereignis da war, was die Eingeweihten nur im Geiste erschauen konnten, was auf Golgatha sich als historisches Ereignis vollzogen hat: daß das Christus-Wesen den Sieg über den Tod der Materie davongetragen hat.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":191,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/57/1908-11-14/p030"},{"locus":"GA 57/1908-11-14/p031","passage_number":31,"text":"Das ist das Historisch-äußerlich-Wirkliche, das sich in den Mysterien soundso oft an den Eingeweihten vollzogen hat. 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Es war gegeben, das äußerlich zu haben, was man sonst nur durch das Entrücktsein in die geistige Welt haben konnte. Wenn man das so annimmt, dann verstehen wir, warum der Christus Jesus sagt: Ich bin der Ich-bin—in einer völlig neuen Gestalt. Was er sagt, das heißt: Blickt zurück in die Urzeiten, in dasjenige, was als das Ewige im Menschen gelebt hat, das sich herunter gelebt hat in Abraham, Isaak und Jakob, das sich dann in dem Gesetze des Moses kundgegeben hat. 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