{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 57/1909-05-06/p008","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"All that lies hidden behind the sense-world, as the sun behind the clouds, the hidden spirit, was known in these Mysteries by the name of “Hu.” “Ceridwen” was the seeking soul. And all the rites of Initiation were a means of revealing to the pupil that death is only one of the many processes in life. Death changes nothing at all in the innermost kernel of man's being.—In the Druidic Mysteries ( *Druid* denotes an Initiate of the third degree), the neophyte was put into a condition resembling death; his senses could not function as organs of perception. A man whose only instrument of perception is the physical body or the physical brain has no consciousness in a condition where his senses cease to function. But in Initiation, the senses—feeling, hearing and so on—cease to function, and yet the neophyte is able to experience and observe. The principle which observes was called “Ceridwen”—the soul. And that which comes to meet the soul, as light and sound come to our outer eyes and ears, was called “Hu”—the spiritual world. The Initiate experienced the union between Ceridwen and Hu. Such experiences are described in the myths. When we are told to-day that the ancients paid homage to a God Hu and a Goddess Ceridwen, this is simply another way of describing Initiation. The true myths are always concerned with Initiation. It is empty chatter to say that these myths have an astronomical meaning, that Ceridwen is the moon and Hu the sun, and so on. These myths originated because their creators were conscious of an inner union between the aspiring soul and the *spirit* of the sun, *not* the physical sun. The Mysteries of Hu and Ceridwen, then, were those into which men were initiated in the regions of which we are speaking.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"The European Mysteries and Their Initiates","site_heading":null,"date":"1909-05-06","location":null,"word_count":301,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/57/1909-05-06/p008","alignment_confidence":"medium","alignment_reason":"beads:length","two_voice_volume":false,"translation_credit":{"scope":"unit","status":"not_established","translator":null,"identified_edition":"eLib2014","book_title":"Where and How Does One Find the Spirit?","publisher":null,"publisher_inferred":false,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA057/English/eLib2014/19090506p01.html","evidence":null,"reason":"no_translator_named","note":"Neither the lecture's own page nor rsarchive's lecture list names a translator for it. 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Wer nur in seinem Leibe lebt und nur mit seinem physischen Verstande wahrnehmen kann, dessen Werkzeug das Gehirn ist, der hat gar kein Bewußtsein in einem solchen Zustande, wo die Sinne schweigen. Das ist eben die Einweihung, daß die Sinne, das Gefühl, Gehör und so weiter schweigen, und daß dennoch, auch wenn das Gehirn schweigt, der Schüler Erlebnisse hat und Beobachtungen macht. Was da in uns Beobachtungen macht, das wurde die Seele, Ceridwen, genannt. Und was ihr entgegenkam wie dem äußeren Auge und Ohre Licht und Ton, die Welt der geistigen Tatsachen, das wurde Hu genannt. Die Ehe zwischen Ceridwen und Hu erlebten die Eingeweihten.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":199,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/57/1909-05-06/p008"},{"locus":"GA 57/1909-05-06/p009","passage_number":9,"text":"Solche Erlebnisse sind in den Mythen beschrieben. 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