{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 66/1917-03-31/p033","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"Not only does the scientific world view, I might say, take such erroneous paths to the soul life as I have characterized it, but in a certain respect it also takes erroneous paths when it wants to explore what lies beyond the senses. In this respect, scientific research is indeed in a strange position at present when it forms a world view. It has actually come to the conclusion that everything that lives in consciousness is only an image of reality. It starts from an incorrect idea; but this incorrect idea, despite its incorrectness, gives a certain insight that is correct, namely that everything that lives in consciousness is an image. Scientific research starts from the idea that out there is a reality of vibrating, thoughtless ether atoms, completely without spirit or soul. We have found the ether to be a surging, thought-filled life; the scientific world view starts from the thoughtless, soulless ether. These vibrations impress our senses, effects arise in us, conjuring up the colorful, resounding world for us, while outside everything is dark and silent. Now, however, thinking, on which this world view is based, wants to get behind these images. What does it do? What it does there can be compared to someone -— well, let's say a child - looking into a mirror. Mirror images come towards him, his own and the images of his surroundings. And now the child wants to know what actually underlies these mirror images. What does it do? Yes, what is actually underlying them is behind the mirror, it says; so it will either want to look behind the mirror. But there it sees something quite different from what it was actually looking for. Or it may well smash the mirror to see what is behind the glass. The same is true of the scientific view of the world. It has the whole carpet of sense phenomena before it, and it wants to know what actually lives behind the sense phenomena. It goes so far as to approach the substance, the matter. Now it wants to know what is out there, apart from the senses. But that is merely as if it wanted to smash the carpet, which is like a mirror. She would not find what she was looking for behind it. And if someone were to say: “I have red through the eye, and behind it are certain vibrations in the ether,” he is talking just like someone who believes that the origin of what shines in the mirror is behind the mirror. Just as when you stand before a mirror you see the image of yourself in the mirror, and you are together with what is in the surroundings, and with what also reflects itself of yourself, so you are together in the soul with what is behind the sense phenomena. If I want to know why other things are reflected with me, I cannot look behind the mirror, but I have to look at those who are to my left and right, who are of the same nature as I am, who are also reflected. If I want to explore what is out there behind the sensory phenomena, I must explore that in which I myself am involved; not by breaking the mirror, but by exploring that in which I myself am involved.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"5. The Beyond of the Senses and the Beyond of the Soul","site_heading":null,"date":"1917-03-31","location":null,"word_count":557,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/66/1917-03-31/p033","alignment_confidence":"high","alignment_reason":"beads:identity","two_voice_volume":false,"translation_credit":{"scope":"unit","status":"established","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"SOL2024","book_title":"Mind and Matter — Life and Death","publisher":"Steiner Online Library","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA066/English/SOL2024/19170331p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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Sie geht dabei von einem schiefen Gedanken aus; aber dieser schiefe Gedanke gibt trotz seiner Schiefheit eine gewisse Anschauung, die richtig ist, nämlich daß alles, was im Bewußtsein lebt, Bilder sind. Die naturwissenschaftliche Forschung geht aus von dem Gedanken, daß da draußen eine ganz geist- und seelenlose Wirklichkeit von schwingenden gedankenlosen Ätheratomen ist. Wir haben den Äther gefunden als wogendes Gedankenleben; die naturwissenschaftliche Weltanschauung geht von dem gedankenlosen, unbeseelten Äther aus. Diese Schwingungen machen Eindruck auf unsere Sinne, da entstehen Wirkungen in uns, die zaubern uns die farbige, tönende Welt hervor, während draußen alles finster und stumm ist. Nun will aber doch das Denken, das dieser Weltanschauung zugrunde liegt, hinter diese Bilder kommen. Was tut es? Was es da tut, das ist zu vergleichen damit, daß jemand -— nun, sagen wir ein Kind - in einen Spiegel hineinschaut. Da kommen ihm Spiegelbilder entgegen, sein eigenes und die Bilder der Umgebung. Und jetzt will das Kind wissen, was da eigentlich diesen Spiegelbildern zugrunde liegt. Was tut es? Ja, das, was da zugrunde liegt, ist doch hinter dem Spiegel, sagt es; also wird es entweder hinter den Spiegel schauen wollen. Da sieht es aber etwas ganz anderes, als was es eigentlich gesucht hat. Oder es schlägt gar wohl den Spiegel ein, um zu sehen, was hinter dem Glase ist. Dasselbe macht im Grunde die naturwissenschaftliche Weltanschauung. Sie hat den ganzen Teppich der Sinneserscheinungen vor sich, und sie will wissen, was hinter den Sinneserscheinungen eigentlich lebt. Sie geht so weit, daß sie an den Stoff, an die Materie herankommt. Nun will sie wissen, was da — abgesehen von den Sinnen — draußen ist. Das ist aber lediglich so, wie wenn sie den Teppich, der wie ein Spiegel ist, einschlagen wollte. Sie würde hinter dem nicht das finden, was sie sucht. Und wenn einer nun sagt: Da habe ich durch das Auge das Rot, und dahinter sind gewisse Schwingungen im Äther, so redet er gerade so wie einer, der glaubt, daß der Ursprung von dem, was im Spiegel scheint, hinter dem Spiegel ist. Denn gerade so, wie wenn man vor einem Spiegel steht, man das Bild von sich selbst aus dem Spiegel sieht, und man zusammen ist mit dem, was in der Umgebung ist, und mit dem, was sich auch von einem selbst spiegelt, so ist man in der Seele zusammen mit dem, was hinter den Sinneserscheinungen ist. Wenn ich wissen will, warum sich da mit mir anderes spiegelt, da kann ich nicht hinter dem Spiegel suchen, sondern da muß ich die anschauen, die links und rechts von mir sind, die mit mir gleicher Natur sind, die sich auch spiegeln. Will ich erforschen, was da draußen hinter den Sinneserscheinungen ist, so muß ich das erforschen, in dem ich selbst darinnen bin; nicht dadurch, daß ich den Spiegel zerschlage, sondern indem ich das erforsche, in dem ich selber drinnen bin.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":552,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/66/1917-03-31/p033"}],"english":["GA 66/1917-03-31/p033"],"method":"identity","confidence":"high","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":552,"en_words":557,"ratio":1.01,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"proposed","verified":false},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":1.05,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":10452,"original_word_count":9922,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"SOL2024","book_title":"Mind and Matter — Life and Death","publisher":"Steiner Online Library","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA066/English/SOL2024/19170331p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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