{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 66/1917-03-31/p039","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"But in general, even philosophers have not yet gone very far in arming themselves with the soul to the point where they would recognize that the seeing consciousness can sprout forth from this ordinary consciousness, just as the waking consciousness sprouts forth from the dream. Today philosophers are even less qualified to penetrate to these things. I have often said that I only act in opposition to those whom I basically respect very much. Therefore, I may say: It is only because of this inability to think in a way that is in accordance with the spirit and reality, that one would strive for this seeing consciousness, that people are considered great philosophers today who, basically, their whole thinking and meditating only swim around in what surges up and down in this ordinary consciousness, without even feeling the need to get beyond mere talk of surging ideas. And so it has also come about that someone who revels in the surface of the surging and swaying ideas, as Eucken did, for example, can be regarded as a great philosopher today. It is just one of the things that one has to characterize by saying that this clinging to ordinary consciousness has also taken away from man the sharpness of thought that allows him to see that there are not such limits to knowledge as Kant states, but such limits that one must reckon with in order to transcend them through the seeing consciousness. That is why those who declaim about all kinds of spiritual worlds, but who, within the ordinary consciousness, come to nothing but what Eduard von Hartmann long ago recognized as mere ordinary consciousness operating in images, are regarded as great philosophers today.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"5. The Beyond of the Senses and the Beyond of the Soul","site_heading":null,"date":"1917-03-31","location":null,"word_count":285,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/66/1917-03-31/p039","alignment_confidence":"high","alignment_reason":"beads:identity","two_voice_volume":false,"translation_credit":{"scope":"unit","status":"established","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"SOL2024","book_title":"Mind and Matter — Life and Death","publisher":"Steiner Online Library","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA066/English/SOL2024/19170331p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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Daher darf ich schon sagen: Aus diesem Unvermögen, überhaupt geist- und wirklichkeitsgemäß zu denken, daß man nach diesem schauenden Bewußtsein streben würde, ist es auch allein gekommen, daß Leute heute als große Philosophen gelten, die im Grunde mit ihrem ganzen Denken und Sinnen nur herumschwimmen in dem,. was in diesem gewöhnlichen Bewußtsein auf- und abwogt, ohne überhaupt das Bedürfnis zu haben, über ein bloßes Gerede von auf- und abwogenden Vorstellungen hinauszukommen. Und so ist es auch noch gekommen, daß jemand, der auf der Oberfläche der auf- und abwogenden Vorstellungen nur so in Wollust schwelgt, wie zum Beispiel Eucken, heute als ein großer Philosoph angesehen werden kann. Es gehört eben zu dem, was man so charakterisieren muß, daß man sagt: Jenes Haften an dem gewöhnlichen Bewußtsein hat dem Menschen auch die Schärfe des Denkens genommen, welche ihn einsehen läßt, daß es nicht solche Grenzen der Erkenntnis gibt, wie Kant sie konstatiert, sondern solche Grenzen, mit denen man rechnen muß, um sie durch das schauende Bewußtsein zu durchschreiten. Daher werden diejenigen, die deklamieren von allerlei geistigen Welten, die innerhalb des gewöhnlichen Bewußtseins aber zu nichts anderem kommen als zu dem, was Eduard von Hartmann längst als bloßes gewöhnliches, in Bildern tätiges Bewußtsein erkannt hat, heute als große Philosophen angesehen.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":277,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/66/1917-03-31/p039"}],"english":["GA 66/1917-03-31/p039"],"method":"identity","confidence":"high","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":277,"en_words":285,"ratio":1.03,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"verified","verified":true,"evidence":["length","meaning","anchors","audit"]},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":1.05,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":10452,"original_word_count":9922,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"SOL2024","book_title":"Mind and Matter — Life and Death","publisher":"Steiner Online Library","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA066/English/SOL2024/19170331p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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