{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 66/1917-03-31/p040","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"And so much could be shown in the present day that would draw attention to the fact that, I would say, the admirable scientific way of looking at things has led us away from the paths that lead to the soul. For some, however, it has been quite the opposite. There are people in the present who sense what I have said today. For example, there is a personality in the present who senses that what lives in the soul between birth and death in the form of thinking, feeling and willing is only something that is conditioned by the body, while the eternal comes from the comes out of the spiritual world, enters into existence through birth, transforms itself in the body so that it works in the body, and then leaves again through death, and that what works in the body is not the true soul. The personality that I mean recognizes this. But it says that in what lives in ordinary consciousness, we only have images. This personality calls it “events”. Behind these lie the primal factors that are experienced in the seeing consciousness as beyond the soul and beyond the senses. But the personality that I mean does not want to go into this seeing consciousness. And so it stands before the occurrences, again, I would like to say, smashing a thick mirror over and over again, and saying: Behind it the primal factors must be. But it rages. And by raging against the mirror surface and not wanting to come to the seeing consciousness, it believes that all philosophy has only raged. With Fichte one can see (I have spoken about this in my book “Vom Menschenrätsel” (The Riddle of Man)) that he did not rave, but that he pointed to the seeing consciousness in an important point. The personality I am referring to now, which does recognize the image-nature of ordinary consciousness, says: “He who cannot laugh (at Fichte) cannot philosophize either.” And as this personality lets all philosophers from Plato and Heraclitus to the present day pass before it in their interrelations, it calls these philosophies “The Tragicomedy of Wisdom”. And there is an interesting sentence on page 132: “We have no more philosophy than an animal, and only the frantic attempt to arrive at a philosophy and the final surrender to not-knowing distinguish us from the animal.”","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"5. The Beyond of the Senses and the Beyond of the Soul","site_heading":null,"date":"1917-03-31","location":null,"word_count":395,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/66/1917-03-31/p040","alignment_confidence":"high","alignment_reason":"beads:identity","two_voice_volume":false,"translation_credit":{"scope":"unit","status":"established","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"SOL2024","book_title":"Mind and Matter — Life and Death","publisher":"Steiner Online Library","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA066/English/SOL2024/19170331p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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Es gibt zum Beispiel eine Persönlichkeit in der Gegenwart, die ahnt, daß in dem, was da zwischen Geburt und Tod in der Seele lebt als Denken, Fühlen und Wollen, nur etwas gegeben ist, was durch den Leib bedingt ist, während das Ewige aus der geistigen Welt herauskommt, durch die Geburt ins Dasein tritt, sich im Leibe verwandelt, so daß es im Leibe wirkt, und wiederum durch den Tod hinausgeht, und daß dasjenige, was im Leibe wirkt, nicht das wahre Seelische ist. Das erkennt die Persönlichkeit, die ich meine, an. Allein sie spricht davon, daß wir in dem, was so im gewöhnlichen Bewußtsein lebt, eben nur Bilder haben. Diese Persönlichkeit nennt es «Vorkommnisse». Hinter dem liegen jene Urfaktoren, die im schauenden Bewußtsein als Jenseits der Seele und Jenseits der Sinne erlebt werden. Aber auf dieses schauende Bewußtsein will die Persönlichkeit, die ich meine, nicht eingehen. Und so steht sie vor den Vorkommnissen, wiederum, möchte ich sagen, einen dicken Spiegel immerfort und fort einschlagend, und sagend: Dahinter müssen die Urfaktoren sein. — Aber sie rast. Und indem sie rast gegen die Spiegelfläche und nicht zum schauenden Bewußtsein kommen will, glaubt sie, alle Philosophie habe nur gerast. Bei Fichte kann man sehen — ich habe darüber in meinem Buche «Vom Menschenrätsel» gesprochen -—, daß er nicht gerast hat, sondern daß er in einem wichtigen Punkte hingedeutet hat auf das schauende Bewußtsein. Jene Persönlichkeit, die ich jetzt meine, die zwar die Bildernatur des gewöhnlichen Bewußtseins erkennt, sagt: «Wer da (bei Fichte) nicht lachen kann, kann auch nicht philosophieren.» Und indem diese Persönlichkeit alle Philosophen von Plato und Heraklit bis in die Gegenwart herein in ihren Zusammenhängen an sich vorüberziehen läßt, nennt sie diese Philosophien «Die Tragikomödie der Weisheit». Und ein interessanter Satz findet sich auf Seite 132, da steht: «Wir haben nicht mehr Philosophie als ein Tier, und nur der rasende Versuch, zu einer Philosophie zu kommen, und die endliche Ergebung in Nichtwissen unterscheiden uns von dem Tier.»","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":378,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/66/1917-03-31/p040"}],"english":["GA 66/1917-03-31/p040"],"method":"identity","confidence":"high","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":378,"en_words":395,"ratio":1.04,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"verified","verified":true,"evidence":["length","meaning","anchors","audit"]},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":1.05,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":10452,"original_word_count":9922,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"SOL2024","book_title":"Mind and Matter — Life and Death","publisher":"Steiner Online Library","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA066/English/SOL2024/19170331p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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