{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 67/1918-03-21/p037","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"I shall now speak of one recent example. It is of great interest because it is characteristic of this whole domain. Here we have a scientist very highly esteemed in his own country, a scientist well versed in all the niceties of scientific methods and who therefore does not by any means go carelessly to work when he approaches these matters. I am referring to *Sir Oliver Lodge*, the celebrated English scientist. It is a very remarkable case, one that is connected with the present catastrophic events. Lodge was always attracted to the question of how a link could be established between the outer, physical world and the world to which man belongs when he has passed through the gate of death. But he wanted to remain firmly on a scientific foundation.—This attitude is of course characteristic of people who are not willing to have anything to do with the methods of Spiritual Science.—Lodge had a son who was serving on the French Front during the war, and one day the father received a strange letter from America. This letter informed Lodge that his son was facing great danger, but that the spirit of Myers—who had died ten years previously—would hold a protecting hand over the young man while the danger threatened. Frederick Myers had been President of the Society for Psychical Research; he had been occupied deeply with the study of super-sensible matters and Lodge and his family knew him well. It could therefore be presumed—if it is in any way accepted that a connection is possible between some happening in the super-sensible world and human life—that Myers would certainly hold a protecting hand over young Lodge when danger was looming before him. But the letter was extremely ambiguous—as letters of such a kind are always wont to be. Obviously young Lodge might be in danger, but he might also be saved from it, and then the writer of the letter would be able to say: ‘Did I not receive through a medium a message to the effect that Myers is protecting Lodge's son? Through the help of Myers the boy has been saved from the danger of death.’ But if the boy had been killed, the writer of the letter would equally well be able to say: ‘Myers is protecting him in the other world.’ If a third eventuality were possible, the letter could have been interpreted in that sense too.—It does not do to be unsceptical if we wish to get at the real truth of these matters.—Naturally, Lodge did not attach particular weight to the communication, for he was well aware that such things are capable of many interpretations.—The son was killed. Then his father received a second message to the effect that Myers was indeed protecting his son in the other world, and that there were people in England who would provide proof of it.—Certain ways of organising such matters do exist.—There were several mediums who were received into the circle of Sir Oliver Lodge's family—most of whom were sceptics. Manifestations of all kinds took place and Lodge has described them in detail in a bulky volume which is extremely interesting for many reasons. The phenomena there described do not, for the most part, differ greatly from others that have been put on record and there was no need for any particular excitement about them—nor indeed was any shown. Lodge would not have thought it worth while to describe these manifestations if something else had not happened. Because he was familiar with all the devices used in the scientific mode of research, in this instance too he set to work like a chemist making investigations in a laboratory and used every conceivable precautionary measure in order to establish the facts without possibility of dispute. People feel therefore that this book makes it possible to form a real judgment about the case in point, for Lodge describes it as a scientist would do.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"7. 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Lodge war schon immer geneigt, irgendwie eine Verbindungsbrücke zu schlagen zwischen der äußerlichen, natürlichen Welt und der Welt, der der Mensch angehört, wenn er durch die Pforte des Todes gegangen ist. Aber er wollte auf naturwissenschaftlichem Boden bleiben, was ja für diejenigen Persönlichkeiten charakteristisch ist, die durchaus nicht in die geisteswissenschaftlichen Methoden eindringen wollen. Lodge hatte einen Sohn in den Krieg schicken müssen, der an der französischen Front diente. Siehe da, eines Tages bekam er aus Amerika einen merkwürdigen Brief. Es wurde Lodge darin mitgeteilt, seinem Sohn stehe eine große Gefahr bevor, aber der Geist des verstorbenen Myers, der zehn Jahre vorher gestorben war, werde seine schützende Hand über den Sohn halten, während er durch diese Gefahr gehe. F. Myers war ja Präsident der «Society for Psychological Research» gewesen, ein Mann, der sich mit übersinnlichen Angelegenheiten beschäftigt hatte, und der Lodge und seine Familie gut gekannt hatte, von dem man also annehmen konnte — wenn man überhaupt annimmt, daß sich irgend etwas in der übersinnlichen Welt im Zusammenhang mit dem menschlichen Leben ereignet —, daß er seine schützende Hand über den in Gefahr schwebenden jungen Lodge halten würde. Aber der Brief war recht vieldeutig abgefaßt, so pflegen nämlich solche Briefe zu sein. Nicht wahr, der Sohn konnte in Gefahr kommen, erschossen zu werden, aber gerettet werden, da konnte dann der Briefschreiber sagen: «Ja, habe ich nicht durch ein Medium die Mitteilung bekommen, daß Myers seine Hand über den Sohn des Lodge hält? Durch die Hilfe von Myers ist er aus der Todesgefahr gerettet worden.» Wird er aber erschossen, so kann der Briefschreiber ebensogut sagen: «Nun ja, Myers hält im Jenseits seine Hand über ihn.» Wäre ein dritter Fall möglich, so würde auch der dritte Fall mit diesem Briefe getroffen. Man darf eben durchaus nicht unskeptisch sein, wenn man auf diesem Boden wirklich die Wahrheit erforschen will. Man muß alles vollständig mit kritischem Urteil anschauen. Natürlich, Lodge hat darauf keinen besonderen Wert gelegt, denn das wußte er schon, daß solche Dinge vieldeutig sind. Siehe da, der Sohn fiel. Da bekam er eine zweite Nachricht, daß nun tatsächlich Myers seine Hand im Jenseits über seinen Sohn hält, und daß sich in England Persönlichkeiten finden würden, die den Beweis dafür liefern sollten. Nun, es werden ja auch solche Dinge schon organisiert. Es fanden sich sogar mehrere Medien, welche in die Familie des Oliver Lodge, die größtenteils aus Skeptikern bestand, Zutritt fanden. Da ereigneten sich nun die verschiedensten Manifestationen. Lodge hat das alles in einem dicken Buche, das aus mehrfachen Gründen sehr interessant ist, ausführlich beschrieben. Die Dinge, die da beschrieben werden, unterscheiden sich größtenteils nicht viel von anderen spiritistischen Protokollen, und man brauchte sich nicht sonderlich darüber aufzuregen. Das haben auch die Leute nicht getan. Auch Lodge hätte schließlich die Manifestationen nicht beschrieben, wenn nicht etwas anderes dazu gekommen wäre. Weil Lodge bekannt ist mit allen Schikanen der naturwissenschaftlichen Forschungsweise, so ging er auch in diesem Falle vor wie ein Chemiker, der Untersuchungen im Laboratorium anstellt, und wandte alle nur denkbaren Kautelen an, um den Fall einwandfrei festzustellen. 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