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Spiritual science traces the human being far, far back, and when it traces the human being back, it always comes across such human beings through long, long periods of time, where the physical body of the human being is the expression of the soul living in the physical body of the human being. But then, going further and further back, we come to a point in human development when this is no longer the case, when we can see how, so to speak, the paths of physical development and of soul-spiritual development separate further backwards. The spirit and the soul of man are rooted in the spiritual world, and when I use the expression of descending from the spiritual world, those who have already penetrated deeper into theosophy know that this expression is only figurative, an expression for something spiritual in a language that is only suitable for the external material. We are coming to times in the development of humanity when we see how the human soul and spirit is still united with other spiritual and soul-like entities. Out of spiritual entities, man's soul and spirit are born. There is a point in our earthly development when these human soul and spirit have only just entered this physical body, but we must not believe that this physical body, as it has taken in the soul and spirit, has not also undergone a long, long development.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":282,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/68a/1907-05-24/p017","witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"SOL2024","book_title":"The Essence of Christianity","publisher":"Steiner Online Library","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA068a/English/SOL2024/19070524p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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Soul and spirit are, so to speak, the transformers and redevelopers of the human body. From that time on, we can also characterize the form of the physical human body, as it existed at that time, suitable for receiving the soul-spiritual, today, without any religious document, but only from the developed abilities of the seer.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":205,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/68a/1907-05-24/p018","witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"SOL2024","book_title":"The Essence of Christianity","publisher":"Steiner Online Library","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA068a/English/SOL2024/19070524p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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But the earth was also shaped quite differently in those ancient times.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":113,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/68a/1907-05-24/p019","witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"SOL2024","book_title":"The Essence of Christianity","publisher":"Steiner Online Library","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA068a/English/SOL2024/19070524p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. The translator IS verified for this lecture: its own source names the translator (evidence: the lecture's page, rsarchive's lecture list, or the cover of the book it was published in), and that page's text was matched against this unit (see match_score and source_url). 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Before that time, it was necessary for the human body to have an organ that still exists today in a last rudiment and remnant, in the swim bladder of fish. Since the physical human ancestor had to move by floating and swimming on the earth, he needed such a organ. The physical human ancestor had this organ in ancient times. This organ has transformed itself in the course of human physical development into the lungs. This has enabled man to breathe in and process the air as he does today. Connected with this is what we know about other processes in the body that have some kind of relationship to this lung breathing. We see the transition from the old gill breathing, which is still present in human embryonic development, to lung breathing, which is the preparation for red blood, which plays such an important role in human beings as well as in the life of nations. This moment of capturing the oxygen in the air through the lungs is also the moment of the human being being endowed with a human soul. Only then was he a suitable vessel for what we call a human soul.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":215,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/68a/1907-05-24/p020","witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"SOL2024","book_title":"The Essence of Christianity","publisher":"Steiner Online Library","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA068a/English/SOL2024/19070524p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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Die Geisteswissenschaft verfolgt den Menschen zurück, weit, weit zurück, und wenn sie so den Menschen zurückverfolgt, dann kommt sie durch lange, lange Zeiträume hindurch immer zu solchen Menschenwesenheiten, wo äußerlich die Körperlichkeit, die physische Körperlichkeit am Menschen der Ausdruck ist für die im physischen Leibe des Menschen lebende Seele. Dann aber kommen wir, wenn wir weiter und immer weiter zurückgehen, zu einem Zeitpunkt der Menschheitsentwicklung, wo das nicht mehr so ist, wo wir sehen können wie sozusagen sich die Wege der physischen Entwicklung und der seelisch-geistigen Entwicklung weiter nach rückwärts trennen. Der Geist und die Seele des Menschen wurzeln in der Geisteswelt, und wenn ich den Ausdruck gebrauche vom Heruntersteigen aus der geistigen Welt, so wissen diejenigen, die schon tiefer in die Theosophie eingedrungen sind, dass dieser Ausdruck ja nur bildlich ist, ein Ausdruck für etwas Geistiges in einer Sprache, die nur für das äußere Materielle geeignet ist. Wir kommen zu Zeiten in der Menschheitsentwicklung, wo wir sehen, wie des Menschen Seele und Geist noch vereinigt ist mit andern Wesenheiten geistig-seelischer Art. Aus geistigen Wesenheiten heraus ist des Menschen Seele und Geist herausgeboren. Es gibt einen Zeitpunkt in unserer Erdenentwicklung, wo diese Menschenseele und -geist erst eingezogen sind in diesen physischen Leib, aber wir dürfen nicht glauben, dass dieser physische Leib, wie er die Seele und den Geist aufgenommen hat, auch eine lange, lange Entwicklung nicht hinter sich gehabt hätte.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":276,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/68a/1907-05-24/p017"},{"locus":"GA 68a/1907-05-24/p018","passage_number":18,"text":"Es treffen an diesem Punkt zwei Entwicklungsströmungen zusammen. Die eine Entwicklungsströmung ist die der physischen Welt: Wir sehen, wie sich die physischen Wesenheiten — an ihrer Spitze der physische Menschenleib — entwickeln bis zu einer gewissen Stufe der Vollkommenheit herauf. Dann kommt ein Zeitpunkt, wo dieser physische Menschenleib so vollkommen geworden ist, dass er nun aufnehmen konnte diese geistig-seelische Wesenheit, die sich so weit entwickelt hatte, dass sie im physischen Menschenleibe einen Ausdruck finden konnte, und seit jener Zeit, seit dieser Geist, diese Seele im Menschenleibe von jener unvollkommenen Gestalt, die jener Leib hatte, eingezogen ist, bis herauf zu der heutigen Menschengestalt arbeitet Seele und Geist selbst im Menschenleibe durch lange, lange Zeiträume hindurch. Und durch die Kräfte, durch die sie wirkten, wurde somit von Seele und Geist innerhalb des Menschenleibes dieser selbst immer höher und höher entwickelt, bis zu seiner heutigen Gestalt. Seele und Geist sind also sozusagen die Umgestalter und Fortgestalter des Menschenleibes. Von jenem Zeitpunkt an, dann können wir auch jene Gestalt des physischen Menschenleibes, wie sie damals vorhanden war, geeignet, nun aufzunehmen das Seelisch-Geistige, wir können sie heute charakterisieren ohne jede religiöse Urkunde, allein aus den entwickelten Fähigkeiten des Sehers heraus.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":195,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/68a/1907-05-24/p018"},{"locus":"GA 68a/1907-05-24/p019","passage_number":19,"text":"Es stellen sich diese beiden Gestalten des Menschenleibes so dar, dass der von einer Menschenseele noch unbeseelte Menschenkörper, der war gewiss — ich weiß, wie ich Anstoß errege bei all denen, die nur materialistische Vorstellungsart in sich haben; das macht aber nichts; wollen wir aber Wahrheit erkennen, so müssen wir uns an diesen großen Unterschied heranmachen, wir müssen es sagen; die Gründe, aus denen die materialistische Wissenschaft das komisch und grotesk finden kann, die kennt der Geistesforscher schon selbst, die hat er schon mit sich abgemacht, er würde es sonst nicht wagen, solche Dinge zu erzählen — ganz, ganz anders gestaltet, als er es später geworden ist. Es war aber auch die Erde ganz anders gestaltet in jener alten Zeit.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":120,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/68a/1907-05-24/p019"},{"locus":"GA 68a/1907-05-24/p020","passage_number":20,"text":"Ich werde Ihnen nur von einem einzigen Ding im Menschenleibe sprechen und seiner Umwandlung in jenem Zeitpunkt. Vor jenem Zeitpunkt war es notwendig, dass der Menschenkörper in sich hatte ein Organ, das jetzt noch vorhanden ist in einem letzten Rudiment und Überbleibsel, in der Schwimmblase der Fische. Da der physische Menschenvorfahr sich damals schwebend, schwimmend auf der Erde bewegen musste, so brauchte er eine solche. Der physische Menschenvorfahr hatte dieses Organ in uralten Zeiten. Dieses Organ hat sich umgebildet im Laufe der menschlichen physischen Entwicklung zur Lunge. Dadurch ist der Mensch fähig geworden, so die Luft einzuatmen, zu verarbeiten, wie er dies heute verarbeitet. Damit hängt zusammen das, was wir an andern Vorgängen im Leibe kennen, die mit dieser Lungenatmung irgendein Verhältnis haben. Wir sehen den Übergang von der alten Kiemenatmung, die heute noch in der Embryonalentwicklung des Menschen enthalten ist, zur Lungenatmung, die die Bereitung ist des roten Blutes, das eine so bedeutungsvolle Rolle spielt im Menschen wie im Völkerleben. Dieser Zeitpunkt des Einfangens des Sauerstoffes der Luft durch die Lungen, dieses ist auch der Zeitpunkt des Beseelens des Menschen durch eine Menschenseele. Da erst war er ein geeignetes Gefäss für das, was wir eine Menschenseele nennen.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":198,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/68a/1907-05-24/p020"},{"locus":"GA 68a/1907-05-24/p021","passage_number":21,"text":"In langen, langen Zeiträumen vollzogen sich diese Dinge, die Umbildung jener Schwimmblase in die Lungen, die die Fähigkeit haben, den Sauerstoff der äußeren Luft zu verarbeiten. Denken Sie sich jetzt das ausgedrückt gefühlsmäßig, empfindungsmäßig — wenn etwa ein Beobachter diesen wichtigen Entwicklungsmoment schildern wollte — er hätte sagen können: Mit der Einatmung der Luft atmeten wir die göttliche Seele ein. So empfanden tatsächlich unsere Vorfahren, sie empfanden dankbar den Atemzug als den Beseeler. Sehen Sie, daher kommt, dass die Sagen und Mythen aller Völker in der Luft den Leib derjenigen Gottheit sahen, welche dem Menschen sein individuelles Bewusstsein gegeben hatte. In der dahinwehenden Luft sieht derjenige, der also aus dumpfem Hellsehen heraus oder aus dem entwickelten Bewusstsein des Sehers heraus sieht, den Leib der beseelenden Gottheit, jener Gottheit, von der seine individuelle Seele ein Stück ist. 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